Mitt Romney and the Kingdom of the Cult – The Truth About Mormonism and The Book of Mormon

Truth about Mitt Romney – Mormonism and the Book of Mormons – Romney Video Goes Viral

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    A day before the election, a video that depicts a visibly angry Mitt Romney defending his faith has become a viral hit. The clip, which according
 

Internet evangelist condemns Billy Graham for supporting Mitt Romney

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Oct 25, 2012 – Mitt Romney’s run for president and for chan. sons of Satan when high profile men of God like Billy Graham and supposed Christian leaders

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Doctrines of the Latter Day Saints of deception (Mormons/LDS)

(most of the following bullet statements were extracted from the Kingdom of the Cults, by Dr. Walter Martin). The Mormons believe in many gods – these gods

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Billy Graham’s Website Removes ‘Mormonism’ From Cult List – ABC

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Oct 18, 2012 – Billy Graham has taken public steps to embrace Mitt Romney for What’s next, a charge of your position on satan from bad to good!

MORMONISM DECLARED WAR ON CHRISTIANITY : Apprising

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Apr 20, 2012 – Martin classified Mormonism as a non-Christian cult because: is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.

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Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed
for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also
reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast
forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

 

Prominent African-American Southern Baptist Condemns

 Prominent African-American Southern Baptist Condemns Mormonism as Racist | Brian Kaylor, Dwight McKissic, Mitt Romney, SBC, Mormonism

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 A prominent African-American Southern Baptist pastor hopes messengers at next week’s annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention will pass a
resolution condemning Mormonism as racist.
The move by Dwight McKissic, a pastor in Arlington, Texas, comes as some Southern Baptist leaders attempt to rally support for Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, whose Mormonism makes some conservative evangelicals weary. McKissic posted the full text of his proposed resolution, which he sent to the SBC’s Resolution Committee for consideration, earlier this
month on his blog. However, McKissic’s resolution on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints could spark the most controversy as it places him at odds with claims made by other Southern Baptist leaders in the midst of a heated presidential campaign.
In the resolution, McKissic claims “growing awareness, acceptance and influence [of Mormonism] in  contemporary American culture” will lead
“some to study or accept the Mormon Religion as valid.” Thus, he urges Southern Baptists to speak out on the racial problems of the faith.
In addition to critiquing the Mormon adoption of authoritative books other than “the King James Holy Bible,” McKissic’s resolution claims that while “in 1978, the Mormon Church has denied and denounced racism
and agreed to permit Blacks to the priesthood, they are yet to denounce the racist teachings.”
McKissic ends his resolution by having Southern Baptists declare that
“we repudiate the racist teachings recorded in The Book of Mormon and The Pearl of Great Price.

“This issue must be dealt with if Southern Baptists are to be consistent with what they have historically taught about Mormonism;”
McKissic wrote, “and if they are to be viewed by Black Baptists as simply finding Mitt Romney’s Mormonism and the racist views of his Bible more tolerable than President Obama’s skin color; this is how this
discussion is being played out in Black barber shops, Black beauty
salons and Black churches. If Southern Baptists support this resolution,it will say to the Black Community that they find Mitt Romney’s
Mormonism and the racist views of his Bible abhorrent; but if they vote for him, it will be strictly because of philosophical and policy issues
and positions, and not a vote against President Obama’s complexion.”

Rick Santorum Called Mormonism ‘Dangerous Cult‘ In Minds Of

MORMONISM CULT – Exposing Mormonism Cult

Expose Mitt Romney, Mormon cult member

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Expose Mitt Romney is dedicated to exposing the duplicitous campaign being run by this high ranking member of the Mormon cult.

Mormon plan to establish a world theocracy from America.

 

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Rising Christian Imperialism Fueled by Dominion Theology.  The article is mainly about the danger of Far Right Christian  dominionists gaining control after the Obama failure brings about a Far  Right backlash in America.

Little did I know when I wrote it that there is already a plan in  place to establish a world theocracy from America. It is part of Mormon  prophetic doctrine. Now some might say that this is just some pipe dream  of a cult. However, if you read this article you might not be so  complacent. Mormons have been working toward that end for 160 years and  they have infiltrated high levels of government especially top secret  intelligence positions. One of their own Bishops, Mitt Romney, is still  one of the top contenders for President of the United States in 2012.

Title: Republican Mitt Romney and the “Mormon Plan for America” … LDS Prophet who was also priest and king over America. Not many Americans know that LDS founder …

Exposing Satanism Witchcraft and the New World Order

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The Oath of Vengeance against the American people and the … the United States Senate to have Reed Smoot, a Mormon … and avowed enemies of the American nation.” (Confessions of ...

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… day Saints (sometimes known as the “Mormon Church” by the media). She is currently taking a religion … “For in those days there shall also arise false

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Romney’s ‘Family Came From a Polygamy Commune,’ says

Brian Schweitzer: Mitt Romney’s ‘Family Came From a Polygamy

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I am not alleging by any stretch that Romney is a polygamist and Romney’s  father, George—who

Romney’s ‘Family Came From a Polygamy Commune,’ says Montana Gov.

Mitt Romney will likely struggle nationally, particularly with  women, because his father was “born on a polygamy commune in Mexico,”  said Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer.

FACT CHECK: Romney on his dad growing up poor – Yahoo! News

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Miles Park Romney had five wives and 30 children, and fled to Mexico after passage of the 1882 Edmunson Act that barred polygamy. George Romney’s father .

ROMNEY FAMILY FILES: FLED TO MEXICO TO PRACTICE POLYGAMY

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Smith knew the affect it might have on his community and after polygamy began to Mitt Romney’s father, George S. Romney was born in Mexico in the. Colonia ..

Daily Kos: Mitt Romney’s Dad was on Welfare

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Sep 5, 2012 – Interesting note, that I originally saw from a post on Buzzflash, was that George Romney, Mitt Romney’s father, was on welfare early in his life, 

Mitt Romney’s father, George Romney, was public aid recipient as

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Sep 19, 2012 – But his own father was once among public aid recipients. As the Globe has previously reported, George Romney’s family fled from Mexico in

Welfare Wasn’t Always A Dirty Word In The Romney Family : It’s All

Sep 19, 2012 – It was there that Mitt Romney’s grandfather Gaskell and father, George, were born into an increasingly prosperous family and Mormon ..


George Romney, born on polygamist colony, touted as immigrant

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Aug 30, 2012 – “It’s easy to forget that the story of my father’s success begins with the voters Thursday, drawing on his late grandfather, George Romney,

Introducing The 55 Wives Of Brigham Young

Brigham Young Wives

Brigham Young, Joseph Smith’s successor as president of the Church of  Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and prophet to Mitt Romney, had a tremendous number of wives, 55 total.

Joseph Smith instructed Young that plural marriage was a divine  commandment that would bring a select number of righteous men tremendous  blessings for eternity.

The sheer variety of Brigham Young’s marriages makes it difficult to  make sense of them. He married — was sealed to, in Mormon parlance —  young (Clarissa Decker, 15) and old (Hannah Tapfield King, 65). He  married single women and widows. Perhaps most unusually, he was sealed  to his first two mothers-in-law. Perhaps most controversially, he married women who were already married, some to Mormon men in good standing.

Is Mormonism a cult?

by Matt Slick

Yes, Mormonism is a cultMormonism, also called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS),  is not considered to be Christian by Christians.  In fact, Mormonism teaches the following non Christian, non biblical doctrines.  (Note that all the documentation is taken from Mormon writers and Mormon scriptures.)

  • God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
  • God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428).
  • “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s…” (Doctrines and Covenants 130:22).
  • God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
  • “God  himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits  enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God  from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so  that you may see,” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
  • After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354.)
  • There is a mother god, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
  • God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).
  •   The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy  Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct  from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine  dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35.).

In contrast to these teachings, Christianity the Bible teaches that God has always been God and was never a man (Psalm 90:2).   The Bible no where says he lives near another star or that the Father  has a body of flesh and bones — which Christ contradicted in John 4:24 and Luke 24:39.  We do not have the potential of becoming gods because there are no gods formed (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8; 45:5).  The Trinity is one God (Deut. 6:4), not three.

There are numerous books written about Mormonism from a biblical perspective, exposing its false teachings.

Of  course, we do not hate the Mormons and we pray for their repentance  from believing in false gods.  But, Mormonism is not Christian.

The Order of the Illuminati: Its Origins, Its Methods and Its Influence

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As the number of people asking that question has grown, facts about the Order … tasks to accomplish in order to prepare them to take action in the “real world”. … A definite alliance between the Illuminati and Freemasonry became possible in …… Illuminati process reminds me a lot of Mormonism/LDS church style which no .

Statement by the Southern Baptist Church on the Mormon church

By Adam Miller / Baptist Press

Friday, February 26, 2010

As one Mormon candidate launches his White House bid, the Southern Baptist official … points out, the Latter-day Saints … is that Mormons do not know the real Jesus of the Bible.

Southern Baptist Convention warns Christians about  teachings of Mormonism

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February 15, 2007

By Allie Martin

Rob Bowman with the North American  Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) says Christians need to  be aware that the beliefs of the Mormon Church are inconsistent with biblical  Christianity. As one Mormon candidate launches his White House bid, the Southern  Baptist official is urging Christians to take advantage of materials his  denomination offers that teach the truth about Mormonism.

As former  Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney officially announced his presidential  candidacy this week, a cover story in USA Today looked at the beliefs of the  Mormon Church, formally known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day  Saints.

Rob Bowman,  manager of the apologetics and interfaith evangelism department of the SBC’s  North American Mission Board (NAMB), thinks Christians would be wise to take an  even closer look at the Mormons, lest any be deceived about the nature and  tenets of that religious group. He says although the Mormon Church wages an  expensive public relations campaign, using terms familiar to appeal to  evangelicals, the core teachings of the church do not line up with scripture and  are inconsistent with evangelical Christianity.

For this  reason, Bowman says the SBC has for decades offered, through its various  entities, information resources focusing on the Mormon Church. Many of these  resources detail the differences between Christian and Mormon beliefs — of which  there are many, the NAMB official observes.

For example,  Bowman notes, “In 15 short years, [Mormon Church founder] Joseph Smith went from  being a thoroughgoing monotheist, a believer in one god, to a thoroughgoing  polytheist, teaching the existence of many gods.” Also, he points out, the  Latter-day Saints teach that humans can achieve godhood by joining the church  and taking part in specific deeds and ceremonies.

Such  divergent beliefs are among the reasons, the NAMB official asserts, why  Christians must know the Bible, so as not to be fooled by non-biblical Mormon  teachings. As for the Mormon Church members themselves, he adds, “Our concern is  that they don’t really know the God of the Bible. So we’re concerned for their  salvation.”

The concern  of Bible-believing Christians is that Mormons do not know the real Jesus of  scripture, Bowman explains. The SBC’s desire, he says, is not only to see  evangelicals learn about the differences between Mormonism and Christianity but  also to see Mormons come to know Jesus and have an authentic relationship with  Him.

Evangelical  Theologian: Bottom Line is Mormons are not Christians

Michelle Vu

Christian Post  Reporter

July 27 2007

Mormons  believe in a false gospel and are not Christians, concluded one of the nation’s  preeminent evangelicals in what appeared to be the close of an online debate  over Mormonism.

“Here  is the bottom line. As an Evangelical Christian – a Christian who holds to the  ‘traditional Christian orthodoxy’ of the Church – I do not believe that  Mormonism leads to salvation,” wrote Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., president of  Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, on Wednesday evening.

“To the  contrary, I believe that it is a false gospel that, however sincere and kind its  adherents may be, leads to eternal death rather than to eternal life,” he  stated.

Mohler’s response is part of an ongoing “blog dialogue” sponsored by the Web  site Beliefnet.com. Since June 28, the evangelical scholar and prominent Mormon  science-fiction writer Orson Scott Card have been debating whether Mormons can  be considered Christians.

During  the course of the debate, Card focused on whether Mormons are moral people, good  citizens and why Mormon presidential candidate Mitt Romney should be supported  by evangelicals. He emphasized that Mormons share many of the same values as  evangelical Christians and believe Jesus Christ is the only path to salvation.

However, Mohler noted that whether a Mormon has similar moral values to  evangelical Christians is beside the point because Beliefnet.com had asked  whether Mormons can be considered Christians based on traditional Christian  orthodoxy.

“It  appears that we are not really discussing the same question,” noted Mohler in  his latest blog response.

“The  debate has never been about whether Mormons are good Americans or would make  good neighbors,” he wrote.

“I dare  say that most American Evangelicals and traditional Roman Catholics would find  more in common with Mormons in terms of child-rearing, sexual morality, the  protection of marriage and family, and a host of other issues, than they would  with liberal Catholics or liberal Protestants,” acknowledged Mohler.

But  Mormonism from its beginning has rejected traditional Christian orthodoxy, which  is part of the core Mormon identity, pointed out the highly-respected  theologian. The subtitle of The Book of Mormon is “Another Testament of Jesus  Christ.”

“A  ‘testament,’ that is, other than that accepted by the historic Christian  churches,” Mohler highlighted.

Mohler  – who is often seen on “Larry King Live” and other popular news show  representing the Christian voice – concluded that Mormonism is not just another  form of Christianity and is incompatible with “traditional Christian orthodoxy.”

Mormon  defender Card readily agrees with Mohler that Mormons do not fit into the  Christian category as defined by traditional Christian orthodoxy. However, he  argues that Mormons should be considered “nontraditional Christians.”

“Despite our deep differences of belief over the nature of God and his plans for  his children, we recognize that those who believe in the other Christian faiths  have taken a giant step closer to fulfilling the intentions of our Lord,” wrote  Card on Thursday. “They are, in heart and mind, Christians.”

He  further added, “We ask only the same favor in return. Let’s take that word  ‘traditional’ and make use of it. Instead of saying that we are ‘not  Christian’…let us agree that Mormons are ‘nontraditional Christians.’”

Card  looked back on Christian history when Protestant Christian denominations were  not accepted as part of the traditional church according to the Catholic  viewpoint, and was even condemned guilty of heresy.

He  concluded: “Call us ‘nontraditional Christians’ and continue to encourage your  communicants not to believe our doctrines. We’ll happily continue to call you  ‘traditional Christians’ and teach people why they should believe our  doctrines.”The Mormon defender ended by calling for unity in a world where Christians are  persecuted and expressed appreciation that Dr. Mohler affirmed that Mormons  should be equally considered for American public offices regardless of  theological difference.

Basic beliefs of Mormons  explained

By Mike Licona
NAMB,  Director, Apologetics and Interfaith Evangelism
Updated Monday, April 07, 2008

Mormonism started in 1830 with 24-year-old  year old Joseph Smith Jr. According to Smith, he had several experiences, during  which God, Jesus, and the angel Moroni gave him instructions. Part of the  instructions was to dig up some gold plates buried by the angel Moroni around  A.D. 400 on a hill just outside of Smith’s town of Palmyra, New York. Smith dug  up the plates, claimed they were written in “Reformed Egyptian,” and that God  had given him the ability to translate them. This translation became known as  the Book of Mormon, an account of the ancient inhabitants of North America  between 600 B.C. and A.D. 400.

Mormons have four sources of authority: the  Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrine and Covenants.  The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has become one of the  fastest-growing religions in the world. The church owns Brigham Young  University.

Mormon beliefs are fundamentally different  from biblical Christianity.

1. God. Once a human as we are now, and  progressed to become God. He is one of many gods.

2. Man. Has the ability to progress and  become a god just as Jehovah did.

3. Marriage. Polygamy is no longer advocated,  although it once was encouraged.

4. Jesus. The son of God, but not part of the  Godhead. Mormons do not believe in the Trinity.

Mormons are very sincere about their faith.  Conversations with Mormon missionaries promise to be cordial. Mormon scholars,  such as those at Brigham Young University, are well aware of the challenges  which face Mormonism.

What do Mormons tell you when they visit?

When Mormons visit you, they usually will not  focus on the doctrines previously mentioned. In fact, they probably will not  even bring them up during the first few meetings. Instead they will seek to find  common ground with you on many of the doctrines Christians believe. For example,  they may begin by saying that God revealed the Old Testament through Moses and  the prophets. Then Jesus came, was crucified and resurrected. His disciples  wrote books and letters that became the New Testament. We all agree on these  facts.

Then the differences begin. They will tell  you that before Jesus’ ascension into heaven, He appeared to the inhabitants of  North America and gave them the gospel as well. His message and the history of  these inhabitants from 600 B.C. to A.D. 400 are recorded in the Book of Mormon.

Furthermore, they will tell you that since  the apostles were not replaced when they were killed, the Church went into  apostasy. In other words, it abandoned the true faith, and consequently, a  restoration was necessary. Mormons believe that God chose Joseph Smith to bring  that restoration; therefore, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is  the true Church.

How to answer Mormons

Mormons are well equipped to answer many of  the issues Christians bring to their attention and have answers adequate to  silence the average critic. The Mormon missionaries who come to your door are  cordial and will listen to what you have to say. Enjoy the opportunity to share  your faith with them, but be prepared by having good answers. Although there are  many issues, which you may bring to the Mormons’ attention, focus on four that  are of primary importance:

A. The Bible is reliable. Mormons claim that  the Bible has been corrupted over the years as evidenced by the many different  translations. How do we know that the Bible we have today is the same as it was  2,000 years ago? The original words of the Bible have been preserved with  remarkable purity and that its accuracy has been confirmed by both history and  archaeology. Variances among English translations do not call into question the  preservation of the Bible over the years. Until you have shown this to a Mormon,  it is useless to point out that some Mormon doctrines differ from the Bible.  They will only respond that the Bible is unreliable.

B. There is no archaeological confirmation of  the Book of Mormon. While the spade of the archaeologist has confirmed many  places and peoples mentioned in the Bible, it has not been at all favorable to  the Book of Mormon. Although Mormons will confidently assert that archaeology  has confirmed the Book of Mormon’s accuracy time and time again, professional  archaeologists have arrived at quite a different conclusion.

C. The Book of Abraham is a fraud. The Book  of Abraham is one of the books in the Pearl of Great Price, one of Mormonism’s  scriptures. Joseph Smith purchased some ancient Egyptian papyri and claimed it  was an original book penned by Abraham himself while in Egypt. He translated it  allegedly by the same gift, which God had given him to translate the Book of  Mormon. Professional Egyptologists have translated the papyri since their  rediscovery in 1967. Their translations bear no resemblance to Smith’s  translation, exposing him as a charlatan.

D. Evidence for Mormonism? Mormons are  convinced that Mormonism is true because the inward testimony of God tells them  so. If you are going to be effective when talking to Mormons, it is crucial that  you address this issue. Otherwise, no amount of solid evidence, which testifies  against Mormonism, will be of help to them.

(EDITOR’S NOTE – The North  American Mission Board’s apologetics web site, http://www.4truth.net, carries much more  information about many brands of religion.

Romney’s LDS  faith makes him a ‘cult’ member, Texas pastor says

By Peggy Fletcher Stack
The Salt Lake Tribune

09/26/2008

   WASHINGTON –  Evangelicals who believe the country needs a Christian in the White House but  promoted Mitt Romney’s candidacy during the Republican primaries were  hypocrites, according to a Texas pastor.

    Romney, a Mormon, is  not a Christian, the Rev. Robert Jeffress said, but a member of a “cult.”

    “I believe we should  always support a Christian over a non-Christian,” Jeffress, pastor of First  Baptist Church of Dallas, told a packed audience of journalists at last  weekend’s Religion Newswriters Association (RNA) annual meeting. “The value of  electing a Christian goes beyond public policies. . . . Christians are uniquely  favored by God, [while] Mormons, Hindus and Muslims worship a false god. The  eternal consequences outweigh political ones. It is worse to legitimize a faith  that would lead people to a separation from God.”

    Jeffress made his  remarks during a luncheon debate with Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the  American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), a law firm and educational  organization that focuses on religious-liberty issues. The DeMoss Group, a  Christian public-relations firm in Duluth, Ga., sponsored the event.

    Sekulow, who also  disagrees with Mormon theology but supported Romney’s candidacy, argued he would  rather have a president who promoted a conservative political agenda than one  who shared his doctrinal positions. 

“Jimmy Carter ran as a  born-again Christian,” Sekulow reasoned, “but his presidency did nothing for the  issues I care about.”

    Mark DeMoss, the  company’s president, opened the session by describing his decision to lead  Romney’s outreach to conservative Christians. DeMoss said he had come to admire  Romney, despite their theological differences, but was amazed at the vehement  opposition to the Mormon’s candidacy among Evangelicals.

    “When making the  choice of candidate for president, I don’t care how different the person’s  theology is from mine, just like I don’t care about my doctor’s theology or the  guy’s who built my house or the architect’s,” DeMoss said in an interview this  week. “I’m challenging people who would oppose a Mormon because he’s a Mormon,  but I’m also challenging people who would instantly embrace a Southern Baptist  because he’s a Southern Baptist. Both conclusions are bad.”

    DeMoss said he  doesn’t mind when people come to different conclusions about which candidate to  support, but hopes as least “they’re thinking.”

    The lively debate  seemed to prove his point.

    “It was one of the  more spirited lunch discussions we’ve ever had at RNA,” said RNA president Kevin  Eckstrom, who noted that the journalist organization did not organize the event.  “A lot of people were uncomfortable with what Dr. Jeffress said about Mormons,  but what we were hoping for was something provocative that would get people  talking, and certainly this did it.”

    Many reporters said  they had never heard the word “cult,” which Jeffress repeatedly called the LDS  Church, used so “freely and recklessly,” said Eckstrom, editor of Religion News  Service in Washington, D.C. But Jeffress used the same word to describe  “Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists and virtually everyone else.”

    It was useful for  reporters to be aware of such strident views, Eckstrom said, because they are  “completely mainstream in a lot of evangelical quarters.”

    First Baptist of  Dallas “is not a backwater pulpit somewhere. It is a major church in Texas and  in Southern Baptist circles,” Eckstrom said. “It’s a huge institution and a lot  of followers. He’s not just spouting these opinions for himself but proud of the  fact that he was going back to his congregation and declare every other religion  was wrong, and at least 10,000 people hear this position every week.”

    The Church of Jesus  Christ of Latter-day Saints insists that it is a Christian faith, though not a  traditional brand of Christianity. LDS officials today declined to comment on  Jeffress’ statements until they see a transcript of the remarks, spokeswoman Kim  Farah said. 

Apologetics

The leader of this hate mongering, white-supremacist, racist cult is Arnold Murray. He teaches the common Mormon (LDS) doctrine that men preexisted time.

GOP Hopeful Mike Huckabee  – Mormons Believe Jesus, Devil Are Brothers … the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee … was a cult. “I’m …

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Mike Huckabee Makes Amends on Mormonism: The evangelical, who previously trafficked in anti-Mormon tropes, validated Romney’s religion in his RNC speech

My ancestors came west with the Mormon wagon train. I was born andf lived in Utah. If you believe in the Bible, the Mormon religion is a false religion

Black Mormons Face Tough Election Choice Between Romney And

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Jun 12, 2012 – “I’ve been black my whole life and a Mormon for 30 years and never thought Until 1978, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints barred  blacks from its all-male priesthood. After that landmark shift 34 years  ago, missionaries found some success winning black converts, but  African-Americans still represent only about 3 percent of the Mormons’ 6  million U.S. members. The Black race is curse and should slaves

This letter ought to shock anyone into recognizing the racism of the LDS church. Letter to Gov. George Romney from Bishop Delbert Stapley
http://www2.ldsfreedom.org/sites/default/files/delbert_stapley.pdf

What the Book of Mormon say about Race

  1. 1 Nephi 11:13 (Mary) “. . . she was exceedingly fair and white.”
  2. 1 Nephi 12:23 (Prophecy of Lamanites after Christ) “. . . became a  dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all  manner of abominations.”
  3. 1 Nephi 13:15 (Gentiles) “. . . they were white, and exceedingly  fair and beautiful, like unto my people [Nephites] before they were  slain.”
  4. 2 Nephi 5:21 “. . . a sore  cursing . . . as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome,  that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a  skin of blackness to come upon them.”
  5. 2 Nephi 30:6 (Prophecy to Lamanites) “. . . scales of darkness shall  begin to fall . . . they shall be a white and delightsome people.”  (Changed to pure and delightsome in 1981)
  6. Jacob 3:5 (Lamanites cursed) “. . .whom ye hate because of their  filthiness and the cursing which hath come upon their skins. . .”
  7. Jacob 3:8-9 “. . .their skins will be whiter than yours . . . revile  no more against them because of the darkness of their skins . . .”
  8. Alma 3:6 “. . . skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the  mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them  because of their transgression and their rebellion. . .”
  9. Alma 3:8 (Cursed) “. . .that their seed might be distinguished from  the seed of their brethren . . .that they might not mix . . .”
  10. Alma 3:9 “. . . whosoever did mingle his seed with that of the Lamanites did bring the same curse upon his seed.”
  11. Alma 3:14 (Lamanites cursed) “. . . set a mark on them that they and their seed may be separated from thee and thy seed. . .”
  12. Alma 3:19 (Amlicites cursed) “. . . brought upon themselves the curse …”
  13. Alma 23:18 “. . . [Lamanites] did open a correspondence with them [Nephites] and the curse of God did no more follow them.”
  14. 3 Nephi 2:14-16 “. . . Lamanites who had united with the Nephites  were numbered among the Nephites; And their curse was taken from them,  and their skin became white like unto the Nephites . . . became  exceedingly fair . . .”
  15. 3 Nephi 19:25, 30 (Disciples) “. . . they were as white as the  countenance and also the garments of Jesus; and behold the whiteness  thereof did exceed all the whiteness . . . nothing upon earth so white  as the whiteness thereof . . . they were white, even as Jesus.”
  16. Mormon 5:15 (Prophecy about Lamanites) “. . .shall become a dark, a  filthy, and a loathsome people, beyond the description of that which  ever hath been amongst us . . .”
  17. Mormon 5:17 “They were once a delightsome people . . .”

Mitt Romney, being a priest and a high ranking bishop must believe that these racist scriptures in the Book of Mormon are true.  In order to be a bishop or a Mormon you must believe in the Book of Mormon. It stands to reason that Mitt Romney is Racist or else he would renounce Joseph Smith teachings and the Book of Mormon.

White Blood Mixed with Negro Blood Brings Death on the Spot

Journal of Discourses 10:110-111;“Shall  I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white  man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of  Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will  always be so.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, March 8, 1863

Romans 8:1; “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

Brigham Young the Second Prophet said this:

“You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth,  uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly  deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is  generally bestowed upon mankind….Cain slew his brother.  Cain might  have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of  human beings.  This was not to be, and the Lord put a  mark upon him,  which is the flat nose and black skin.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7,  p. 290).
“In our first settlement in Missouri, it was said by our enemies that we  intended to tamper with the slaves, not that we had any idea of the  kind, for such a thing never entered our minds. We knew that the  children of Ham were to be the “servant of servants,” and no power under  heaven could hinder it, so long as the Lord would permit them to welter  under the curse and those were known to be our religious views  concerning them.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 172).
“Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the  white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed  of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This  will always be so.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 110).

How could any person of color embrace Mormonism? It is a blatantly racist religion and Lawrence O’Donnell lets loose about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlQEtksXJRI&feature=related

If Mormons believe in an all knowing and infallible God, how do they  reconcile teaching polygamy and black inferiority as a religious truth  — as an edict their prophets received direct  from the mouth of God but  then after 1978 it’s no longer a religious truth.  If Mormons believe  in God that ought to tell them that these men posing as prophets are not  prophets but ordinary men, making up stuff, attributing it to God, in  order to get you to believe it’s true.

The truth doesn’t change.  If was God’s truth as transmitted through  Mormon prophets pre-1978 how did it become an untruth after 1978?  I’ll  tell you how — it was never truth in the first place and it was not of  God in the first place (it was of man).  I submit Mormonism is a made up  proposition brought to us by a couple of men calling themselves  prophets/latter day saints.

I recommend the following 2 part Frontline documentary to everyone for an indepth look at the history of Mormonism.  http://video.pbs.org/video/1460817958

If the Book of Mormon is false, then Joseph Smith must have been a false prophet. … admitted to me that they knew Mormonism was a false religion

I do not think it is a coincidence that many of the main beliefs of the Mormon religion are the exact opposite of what we believe in as Christians. These false beliefs .

Mormonism is a false Religion. Posted in the Top Stories Forum … just a few things that they believe and that are written in the book of Mormon.

Is Joseph Smith a false prophet, or the real deal? Former Mormon … Christ until they are able to recognize that their religion .

Understanding Mormonism: The Sex Cult

Mormonism is a Freemasonry demonic cult (founded in 1830 by charlatan, con-man, sex-pervert and 33rd degree  Freemason, Joseph Smith). The Mormon cult 

ARNOLD MURRAY ~ SHEPHERDS CHAPEL in Cults & Sects Forum

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Sep 7, 2011 – I wouldn’t go as far as calling him a closet Mormon, but Dob is absolutely correct about the connection. Have you ever read the Mormon Book of Abraham? be God’s word than to ever take your word or Arnold Murray’s word


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Evangelical Baptist Pastor: ‘Mormonism Is a Cult, Mitt Romney Is Not

Oct 7, 2011 – Robert Jeffress, the evangelical pastor of First Baptist Dallas, said Mitt Romney is not a Christian and Mormonism is a cult, after introducing Rick

CULTWATCH – Mormonism

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Mormomism  claims to be a branch of Christianity, but this comparison of their  beliefs show they are something wildly different. Some will be shocked,  but it is ..

Mormons also believe:

God was once a man just like us but became God

God had actual sex with Mary

ALL other religions are of the Devil

Blood atonement

United Order

The entire Temple Endowment

The Garden of Eden being in Missouri

The sun and the moon are inhabited, because God would never let so much space go to waste.

The flood story and the Tower of Babel story are literal.

Evolution is false.

Apparent dinosaur fossils are the machinations of Satan. He shaped rocks  as if they had been bones of past giants to deceive the very elect.

Satan can’t enter the temple.

Satan has control of the waters.

Satan can’t read your mind.

In the celestial kingdom we’ll all have personal seer stones.

The Elders will save the constitution.

Christ will establish new Zion in Missouri.

Just a few of the hundreds of sites on what Mormons believe…

Do you really want Mitt Romney in office? Why not a Scientologist­ or Satanist?.­.

http://www.lifeaftermormonism.net/profiles/blogs/101-nonpublic-or-weird-beliefs-of-mormons

http://www.top10craziestmormonbeliefs.com/

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Mormon underwear, you may ask what does this have to do with the Mountain Meadows Massacre? Well the underwear as far as I know is insignificant in reference to the

Joseph Smith and Kabbalah: The Occult Connection

An award winning historical examination of Joseph Smith, the founding prophet of Mormonism, and his relationship with the occult traditions of Gnosticism,

The Mormon Plan for America & the Rise of Mitt Romney

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The Heavenly Father of Mormonism is not spirit – John 4:24

Testing for Truth

How you can know and trust what God has to say in His word

All about Joseph Smith

Church leaders have said that without the vision of Joseph Smith, they’d  have nothing so let’s take a look at some of the things of Joseph

Videos of What They’re Hiding: Mormon Temple Rituals on Hidden Camera

Heavenly Mother, Goddess Wife

Ishtar, an Assyrian and Babylonian Goddess known as the

Mitt Romney, Lies and The Mormon Church 2/3

Reprint by Nomad  http://nomadicpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/07/mitt-romney-lies-and-mormon-church-23.html

In Part One,  we traced the strange origins of the Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith and  asked if the entire religion was a hoax perpetrated on 19th century  victims. Let’s begin part two with what would seem at first glance to be  a question with an obvious answer.

Is lying aceptable to the present-Day Mormon Church?

This is perhaps a more  essential question since, no matter how it may have begun, the true  value of any religion lies in what it has become and what it teaches its  followers. And as far I can tell, no religion officially accepts the practice of lying. (Even Satanists are probably supposed to be truthful to one another, I’d imagine.)

The strongest criticism of the Mormon Church comes, not from other religions, atheists or outsiders, but from ex-Mormons. Former ex-high priest Park Romney, the cousin of the presidential candidate,  has been quite open about this subject. He told BBC,

“There’s  compelling evidence that the Mormon Church leaders knowingly and  willfully misrepresent the historical truth of their origins and of the  Church for the purpose of deceiving their members into a state of mind  that renders them exploitable.”

What that precise evidence was is not mentioned. Outside of the history  of the formation of the religion, there are other things that Church  leaders would prefer not to reveal.

Former Mormon missionaries have reported that the statements they made in order to convert others were extremely misleading. The alleged practice is called Lying for the Lord, which is summed up best in this way.

For the  Mormon, loyalty and the welfare of the church are more important than  the principle of honesty, and plausible denials and deception by  omission are warranted by an opportunity to have the Mormon organization  seen in the best possible light. .. “Lying for the lord” is part of  Mormonism’s larger deceptive mainstreaming tactics, and conversion  numbers would drastically lower if important Mormon beliefs were fully  disclosed to investigators.

Naturally the whole idea of Lying for the Lord is disputed by the elders of the Church. It simply doesn’t  exist, they say, and if missionaries misrepresent the religion is  merely because they are a bit too eager or they are not fully versed.  Perhaps, that’s true.

However, Loren Franck, a full-time Mormon missionary from 1975 to 1977, freely admits that she lied for the church regularly.  Some of the lies she listed were simply a matter of doctrinal  differences between the traditional Christian Church and the Mormon  faith. Others were more serious misrepresentations of the faith.

For decades,  the Mormon Church has tried to blend with mainstream Christianity.  Accordingly, during my mission a quarter-century ago, I worked hard to  convince prospects that Mormons believe in the biblical Jesus.

(As we shall see, her statement  conflicts with what Mormon president Gordon B. Hinckley stated  categorically- that the Mormon idea of Jesus was unique and unlike the  traditional view held by most Christians. He implied that true  enlightenment can only come through Joseph Smith and not through the Bible.)

All of this dances around the real question. What is it about the Mormon faith that missionaries feel that they must conceal?

The Principle of Eternal Progression

One staggering fact that Franck mentions that missionaries hide from potential converts is the doctrine that people can become gods. And conversely, God was once a man. Not only that, God was born on a planet called Kolob or at least He has a throne in the neighborhood. (h/t to Nathan.) At least that’s according to the Pearl of Great Price, an early collection of church-recognized doctrines, produced by Smith. It is considered part of the canon of Mormonism.

Regarding  the God-man relationship, modern Church leaders tend to dissemble about  this particular point but this Mormon tenet was taught by all of the  early fathers. The book, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith explains:

After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god.

The  fifth LDS President Lorenzo Snow in 1840 reportedly said,  

“As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.”

Orson Hyde, a leader in the early Latter Day Saint movement and an original member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, sketched this unusual image of God:

“Remember  that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, and mortal like  we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the  school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has  arrived at the point where He now is.” Franck said, as a missionary, it  was understandably not discussed with potential converts.

Given  its explosive nature, this tenet was rarely shared with prospective  converts. Missionaries try to entice people into Mormonism gradually,  and presenting the doctrine of plural gods -and the Lord as a bit too  human- is seldom the best way. Several contacts learned the concept from  their pastors or read about it on their own, but it was new to most  prospects. For most traditional Christians, the concept of God and Man  being only a matter of degrees in progression is certainly blasphemous.

Most Christians would reflexively reject the notion with a shudder.

Attitudes towards Christianity

Many people who know a little about Mormonism know that, unlike traditional Christian faiths, members  of this faith do not use the symbol of the cross. There are many  reasons given for this. But the usual one is that they prefer to  concentrate on the birth and resurrection of Christ rather than his  death on the cross.
Of all the symbols of Christianity, the cross is the most identifiable. In fact, there are many more important differences between the Christian faith and Mormonism.

Despite  the current public relations campaign  Mormons have long been taught  that their religion is superior to all other religions, including  Christianity. 
As one source explains:

Mormons  teach that the church fell into darkness shortly after Christ’s  ascension and was only restored through the person and actions of Joseph  Smith, some eighteen hundred years later. The only true Christians in  this view are Mormons.

Mormon’s 15th president Gordon B.Hinckley, as reported in LDS Church News in 1998,  stated that the Christ he believed in is not the same Christ as the one followed by those outside the LDS Church.

“For the  Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this, the Dispensation of  the Fulness [sic] of Times. He, together with His Father, appeared to  the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove  that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages”

For  Hinckley, Smith’s divine visions allowed him access to a a higher  truth. The phrase “the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages”  could be interpreted as the disciplines of Christ, Paul, Matthew, Luke  and the others.  In that case, the statement would be very controversial  indeed. The whole New Testament would be called into question.
In  any event, the differences between Christian and Mormon faiths are  routinely glossed over by missionaries. Yet the truth is that Mormon  Church considers Christianity (as we know it ) as a corrupted religion.

As one source explains:

Early Mormon  leaders were quite candid about the differences between LDS doctrine  and Christian doctrine. One example is the 1820 First Vision account  Hinckley cited which is also recorded in LDS Scripture. In relating this  vision, Mormon Church founder, Joseph Smith, makes a similar point to  Hinckley’s. Smith said that Jesus told him that all of the creeds of  existing Christianity were “an abomination in his sight.” These  Christian creeds would, of course, include those that describe the  essential attributes and identity of the Jesus worshipped by traditional  Christians.

The third president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, John Taylor, in Journal of Discourses, states:

“There is  not nation now that acknowledges that hand of God; there is not a king,  potentate, nor ruler that acknowledges his jurisdiction. We talk about  Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense. Men talk  about civilization; but I do not want to say much about that, for I have  seen enough of it. Myself and hundreds of the Elders around me have  seen its pomp, parade, and glory; and what is it? It is a sounding brass  and a tinkling symbol; it is as corrupt as hell; and the Devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work that the Christianity of the nineteenth century.”

Another early leader who offered similar opinions was Orson Pratt. Pratt was an original member of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, a part of the church hierarchy organized by the movement’s founder. He expressed his undisguised dread of the Christian religion in this statement.

“This class  of men, calling themselves Christian, uniting with the various forms of  the pagan religion, adopting many of their ceremonies and institutions,  became very popular, and finally some of the pagans embraced  Christianity and were placed, as it were, upon the throne, and what they  termed Christianity became very popular indeed. How long has this order  of things existed, this dreadful apostacy, this class of people that  pronounced themselves Zion, or Christians, without any of the  characteristics of Zion? It has existed for some sixteen or seventeen  centuries.”

This  is naturally something that missionaries do not openly reveal. Despite  the recent assertions to the contrary, Mormons do not consider  themselves to be another Christian sect, like say Lutherans, or  Methodists. It is, according to the Encyclopedia of Mormonism, the only  form of Christianity and all others are inferior.

“The Church  of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not see itself as one  Christian denomination among many, but rather as God’s latter-day  restoration of the fullness of Christian faith and practice…Other forms  of Christianity…are viewed as incomplete…

This  way of thinking is paralleled by followers of Islam who revere (but not  worship) Moses, Abraham and Jesus, even Mary. islam added Mohammed as  the prophet of their faith and the Mormons added Joseph Smith as their  prophet.
The twelfth president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) from 1973 until his death in 1985, Spencer Woolley Kimball wrote in his book, Miracle of Forgiveness:

“One of  the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man  is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus  Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation.”

How  this can possibly square with Christianity is difficult to comprehend.  No other denomination of Christianity could ever make such a statement.  The Nicene Creed which established the perimeters of the Christian faith in the year 325 states as a Christian oath:

And [I  believe] in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Only-begotten,  begotten of the Father before all worlds, light of light, very God of  very God, begotten not made, of one essence with the Father, by whom all  things were made: Who for us men and for our salvation came down from  heaven, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and  became man. . . .

As  Minister Anselm Kyongsuk,  in the book Dialectic of Salvation: Issues in Theology of Liberation, points out:

“At the  heart of Christian faith is the reality and hope of salvation in Jesus  Christ. Christian faith is faith in the God of salvation revealed in  Jesus of Nazareth.

It is not an exaggeration then to say that the Mormon religion is essentially un-Christian.

While  he does not speak for the Mormon Church, one Mormon, David V. Mason, an  associate professor of theater at Rhodes College, frankly admitted this  fact. In an op-ed piece published in The New York Times, Mason declares:

“I’m  perfectly happy not being a Christian…I want to be on record about  this. I’m about as genuine a Mormon as you’ll find – a templegoer with a  Utah pedigree and an administrative position in a congregation of the  Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am also emphatically not a  Christian.”

He also questioned why anybody would wish to be a Christian.

“Being a  Christian so often involves such boorish and mean-spirited behavior that  I marvel that any of my Mormon colleagues are so eager to join the  fold.

Missionaries and Church  leaders would like traditional Christians to believe that the difference  between the religions are superficial. However, a Mormon is no more  Christian than any follower of Abrahamic line, like Judaism or Islam. 

Attitudes about Race

If a reason for missionaries to be less than frank is their realization that the Book of Mormon contains many things that a Christian could not accept, there are also things in the book that a non-Christian or secularist outsider would also reject.

One  particular example is the early church’s racist teaching. The passage  from the Mormon holy book appears to explain the reason why some people  are black:

2 Nephi  5:21; “And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore  cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their  hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore,  as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they  might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of  blackness to come upon them.”

Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 290, 1859, supports this racist view in clear terms.

“You see  some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely,  disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of  nearly all of the blessings of the intelligence that is generally  bestowed upon mankind.

Young connected the mark of Cain as the color of the black skin.

The first  man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will  be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his  brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a  termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin.  Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is  pronounced upon the same race — that they should be the “servants of  servants;” and they will be, until that curse is removed; and the  Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree.”

According  to this discourse by the leader of the Mormon church and successor to  Smith, slavery of the Negro was God’s decree, a divine punishment. This  was not the only racist remark made by Young. Here’s another quote made  in 1863:

“Shall I  tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man  who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain,  the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will  always be so.”

But as it turned out,  And as late as 1978, men of African descent were banned from its  priesthood by the LDS church. This priestly position was open to nearly  all Mormon males and the gateway to sacramental and leadership roles.  Additionally the LDS church had also barred black men and women from  temple ceremonies that promised access in the afterlife to the highest  heaven. Why? Because people of African descent were denied access to  heaven, at least until 1978. (It must have been quite a shock for all  people in Mormon heaven. They had been promised an exclusive paradise,  after all.)

In  light of just these points of religious principles, it is no wonder  that Mormon missionaries are taught to use deception when speaking to  outsiders about their religion. Imagine trying to explain the racist  bans to a black Christian.
Here’s an interesting video which appears to show a missionary training seminar conducted by Latter-day Saint author and speaker Bob Millet. The topic is how to answer difficult questions.
So to answer the or
ginal: Is lying acceptable in the Mormon faith?
The  answer is like so many answers. No… and Yes. No, not officially. But  yes. It is permissible- for a higher good, like conversion- to leave out  information that may present a challenge to explain, to spin the truth  somewhat, to shape it. Aside from the missionary work, are there any  other examples of this? Yes, I could find one other but it is a major  oneAnd So It Came to Pass (or did it?)

In the opening of this post, I quoted Gordon  B.Hinckley who stated in 1998, the founder Joseph Smith’s vision  allowed him to see Jesus with greater clarity than all of the previous  Christian ministers.
However, apparently the Church leadership has in recent years begun  to question those visions and, in an apparent attempt to mainline their  religion into traditional Christian faiths, the leaders have been  scratching out the more controversial aspects of Smith’s (and Young’s)  spiritual views. 

Here are a list of the revisions to the Mormon study guide, Gospel Principles. It’s interesting to see what has been added and removed.

Astoundingly,  many of the unique teachings of the LDS Church have been excised. It’s  like cutting off the unicorn’s horn for the sake of a pony. For example,  there’s this revision.

All good things come from God. Everything that He does is to help His children become like Him—a god.

Additionally all mention of Heavenly parents have been changed to Heavenly Father. In chapter 3 of the manual:

By following His teachings, we can return to live with him and our heavenly parents   Father inherit a place in the celestial kingdom. He was chosen to be  our Savior when we all attended the great council with our heavenly parents  Father. When he became our Savior, He did His part to help us return to  our heavenly home. It is now up to each of us to do our part and become  worthy of exaltation.

Why?  Because up until recently, all Mormons believed (as they were told)  that God was married. Now the Lord is bachelor, it appears. A divorcee  or perhaps a widower? God knows.

The  problem is, of course, that it will take a lot of revisions and those  aspects are deeply woven into the fibre of the faith. All of the early  Church leaders made definitive statements and all of those now must be  rewritten or deleted.

And  this, in turn, calls into question the whole idea of divine revelation.  Were Joseph Smith and Brigham Young divinely inspired or were they  wrong? It can’t be both. After all, can divine revelations actually be  revised by later generations for the sake of making the religion more  widely acceptable? Isn’t that sacrilege? How can this be explained?  And  where does it stop? The revisions are not even claiming to be divinely  inspired so how can they trump the visions and writings of the original  founder and the early church leaders?

It  also begs the question whether all those who came before and believed  the “wrong” things have found salvation. How can the faith of then and  the faith of now ever be reconciled?

And,  for Mormons, it is only fair to ask, after all of the revisions are  completed (if ever), what will be left of the faith? How will it be any  different than any other Christian denomination, like Presbyterians, for  example? How can the LDS leadership expect blind devotion when the  principles of the faith can be change every season?

In George Orwell’s  book, Nineteen-Eighty Four,  the ruling autocratic government did very much the same thing. One day,  everything you thought was true and unshakable, was suddenly dismantled  by  the Ministry of Truth  and its opposite was put in its place. There’s was no outcry because it  was all automatically accepted as “the new truth.” (Of course, it was  never “new” in any sense. It was actually the replaced, revised truth  and the old truth, once replaced, now no longer existed. Not only was  the truth replaced but the history of that truth was also added.)
All  past mention of the former information was deleted from the official  (and sole) record. Truth is what the leadership dictated it to be and  there is nothing in the world that can possibly contradict their  version. As Orwell writes:

If the Party  could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event, it  never happened — that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and  death?

The idea is basically that if you can erase all evidence of the past, you can create a new past, cleaned and trouble-free.

So far the Mormon church has been able to get away with this tactic without much outrage by the congregation. The same strategy has not been a very successful for candidate Mitt Romney. 

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In the final post in this series, for the sake of argument, we ignore all of the evidence to the contrary and agree that the Church does not  condone lying. However, if we are prepared to believe this, we are  faced then with the challenging problem of Mormon Bishop Mitt Romney’s  conduct in the 2012 campaign and the sound of silence from Mormon  leadership.

Brigham Young The Worst Mass Murderer – 120 men,women and children from Arkansas Slaughter – 1857 Massacre

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The 1857 Mountain Meadows Massacre

Aug 31, 2008 – Brigham Young 1; “The Mountain Meadows Massacre stands without a parallel The year 1857 was a time of particularly high tension.

Mountain Meadows massacre – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The Mountain Meadows massacre was a series of attacks on the In early 1857, several groups of emigrants from the northwestern Arkansas region started


“CHILDREN OF THE MASSACRE”
MAY MEET IN REUNION.
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Arkansas’ Great Tragedy, the
Mountain Meadows Slaughter
in Utah Recalled.

______The Emigrants Murdered by Mormons
in 1857 Were Arkansas Pioneers.

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How J. P. Fancher of Berryville, Ark., Has Kept Track of the Surviving Children in His State, Missouri and Texas,  Working for Government Aid Seeking to Bring About a Reunion — Formation and Departure of the Emigrant Train —  Hostility of the Mormons — Arrival at Mountain Meadows — The Massacre, as Told in the Confession of Bishop Lee  of the Mormon Church — Servitude of Children Spared From the Slaughter — Their Rescue and Return to Arkansas.
This is the story of the greatest tragedy connected with the history of the State of Arkansas — the Mountain Meadows  massacre — and of the strange afventures, rescue and after life of the few survivors of the great tragedy, the children  of Arkansas parents.

The latest effort in the direction of bringing about a reunion of these survivors of the Mountain Meadows massacre.  Should this prove practicable, one of the most picturesque and pathetic spectacles possible would then be presented.

Some point in the State of Arkansas will be chosen for the reunion, if it is found that the survivors of the Mountain  Meadows massacre can again be brought together. It would be the first time they have met in a body since that day, many  years ago, when, rescued from the Mormons and brought back to their native State, they were received by old neighbors,  friends and kinfolk as though coming back from the dead.


For more than a quarter of a century one man in Carroll County, Arkansas, has watched over the firtunes of these  survivors of a historic tragedy with almost a fatherly interest. That man is James Polk Fancher, and the objects of  his persistent care are the little remnant of that train of emigrants who escaped the bloody fate of their parents and  friends at the Mountain Meadow massacre in the southern part of the Territory of Utah nearly forty years ago. The  nephew of the brave commander of the train, and related to many other victims of the unparalleled butchery of more than  100 defenseless men, women and children, Mr. Fancher, the present County Clerk of Carroll County, has had good reason  to exercise a kindly guardianship over that now scattered and diminished band of orphans whose infant eyes beheld one  of the most terrific spectacles of inhumanity ever perpetuated in any land.

“Polk” Fancher, as everybody in Carroll County calls the Berryville attorney and official, has never lost any of his  zeal for the seventeen boys and girls spared by the Mormons and their Indian allies on that bloody day in September,  1857, when the Arkansas emigrants “surrendered” to John D. Lee and his trecherous associates after a week of fighting  accompanied by horrors that to-day make the minds of thousands of people shudder when the Mountain Meadow massacre is  mentioned. It was more than twenty-five years ago when Polk Fancher began to urge the claims of the survivors for  Congressional aid. He thought the national Government should assume some parental care over the few persons who lost  the dearest interests of life and every heritage of material wealth in that awful destruction of the train of emigrants.  Many other prominent citizens of Nirthwest Arkansas have hoped that Congress would take some action in favor of the  Mountain Meadow survivors.


It’s  not surprising that Mormons howl in protest–screaming “SACRED!” at the  top of their latter-day lungs–when honest efforts are made to examine  the history of their secret, violence-laden Mormon temple oaths and  rituals.

One of the more notorious ones in this regard was the  infamous “Oath of Vengeance,” which Mormons swore against the United  States government.

Into the first two decades of the 20th  century, faithful, temple-attending Mormons, secretly took this Oath of  Vengeance. The U.S. Senate considered it a serious enough threat to  convene hearings on this Mormon temple vow and other matters related to  the LDS church.

Below are some pertinent historical details  regarding this Oath of Vengeance that Mormons are not inclined to talk  about in openly:

“Following Joseph Smith’s martyrdom [actually,  Smith, armed with a pistol, was shot to death in a jailhouse gunfight  after being place behind bars for ordering the destruction of a  newspaper press], Brigham Young [Smith’s successor] introduced an oath  in the [Mormon temple] endowment which required members [of the church]  to swear vengeance ‘upon this nation.’ It became the subject of a United  States Senate investigation.

“Reed Smoot was a Mormon Apostle  who had been elected a Senator from Utah. In 1903 a protest was filed in  the United States Senate to have [the] Hon. Smoot removed from office,  on the grounds that he had taken this treasonous oath in the endowment  ritual.

“The

complete  record of this episode was published in ‘U.S. Senate Document 486 (59th  Congress, 1st Session) Proceedings Before the Committee on Privileges  and Elections of the United States Senate in the Matter of the Protests  Against the Right of Hon. Reed Smoot, a Senator from the State of Utah,  to hold his Seat,’ 4 vols.[+1 vol. index] (Washington: Government  Printing Office, 1906).”

When  questioned about it under oath during U.S. Senate hearings, Smoot  refused to divulge this secret Mormon temple Oath of Vengeance. (for a  “New York Times” account of Smoot’s cover-up in this regard, see: “Smoot  Would Not Tell of Endowment Secrets,” in “New York Times,” 23 January  1905, at: http://1857massacre.com/MMM/PDF/Smoot_01-23-1905_NYTimes.pdf ; and “Oath of Vengeance,” at: http://1857massacre.com/MMM/oath_of_vengeance.htm😉
This secret Mormon temple ritual’s multi-generational Oath of Vengeance against the U.S. government was worded as follows:

“You and each of you do covenant and promise that you will pray and never cease

to pray to  Almighty God to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation, and  that you will teach the same to your children and to your children’s  children unto the third and fourth generation.”(“Oath of Vengeance,” at: http://www.lds-mormon.com/veilworker/oathvenge.shtml)
With  word leaking out of its existence, the Mormon church eventually removed  this Oath of Vengeance was from its secret temple rituals.

Below  is an overall history of this vow of vengeance and retribution against  their own government, as temple-attending Mormons promised to obey it:

“One  of the oaths which was formerly taken in the temple ritual was the  source of so much trouble that the Mormon leaders finally removed it  entirely from the ceremony. This oath was printed in ‘Temple Mormonism,’  pa. 21, as follows: ‘You and each of you do solemnly promise and vow  that you will pray, and never cease to pray,  and never cease to importune high heaven to avenge the blood of the  prophets on this nation, and that you will teach this to your children  and your children’s children unto the third and fourth generation.’\

“A  great deal of testimony has been given concerning this oath, and  although all of the witnesses did not agree as to its exact wording,  there can be little doubt that such an oath was administered to the  Mormon people after Joseph Smith’s death. John D. Lee related that the  following occurred after Joseph Smith’s death:

“’ . . . Brigham  raised his hand and said, ‘I swear by the eternal Heavens that I have  unsheathed my sword, and I will never return it until the blood of the  Prophet Joseph and Hyrum, and those who were slain in Missouri, is  avenged. This whole nation is guilty of shedding their blood, by  assenting to the deed, and holding its peace.’ .. . . Furthermore, every  one who had passed through their endowments, in the Temple, were placed  under the most sacred obligations to avenge the blood of the Prophet,  whenever an opportunity offered, and to teach their children to do the  same, thus making the entire Mormon people sworn and avowed enemies of  the American nation (‘The Confessions of John D. Lee,’ p. 160).

“Some  Mormon apologists have maintained that there was no ‘Oath of Vengeance’  in the temple ceremony, but the ‘Daily Journal of Abraham H. Cannon’  makes it very plain that there was such an oath. Under the date of  December 6, 1889, Apostle Cannon recorded the following in his diary:

“’About  4:30 p.m. this meeting adjourned and was followed by a meeting of  Presidents Woodruff, Cannon and Smith and Bros. Lyman and Grant. . . .  In speaking of the recent examination before Judge Anderson Father said  that he understood when he had his endowments in Nauvoo that he took an  oath against the murderers of the Prophet Joseph as well as other  prophets, and if he had ever met any of those who had taken a hand in  that massacre he would undoubtedly have attempted to avenge the blood of  the martyrs.’ (‘Daily Journal of Abraham H. Cannon,’ December 6, 1889,  pp. 205-06).

“Apostle Cannon went on to relate that [eventual  Mormon church president] Joseph F. Smith was about to murder a man with  his pocket knife if he even expressed approval of Joseph Smith’s death.

“The  Oath of Vengeance probably had a great deal to do with the massacre at  Mountain Meadows, in which about 120 men, women, and children were  killed, and other murders which were committed in early Utah (see  ‘Mormonism—Shadow or Reality?’ pp. 493-515, 545-59).

“Just after  the turn of the century the Mormon leaders found themselves in serious  trouble because of the oath of vengeance. They were questioned at great  length concerning this oath in the ‘Reed Smoot Case.’ The Oath of  Vengeance remained in the temple ceremony, however, even after the ‘Reed  Smoot Case’ was printed . . . . It must have been removed sometime  between then and 1937, because in a lecture delivered on February 28,  1937, Francis M. Darter complained that ‘The Law and prayer of  Retribution, or divine judgment, against those who persecute the Saints,  has been entirely removed from Temple services. . . . The reason why it  was taken out, says one Apostle, was because it was offensive to the  young people.’ (‘Celestial Marriage,’ p. 60).

“. . . [T]he oaths  taken in the temple were originally very crude. . . . [O]ne example here  [From the Smoot hearings]—i.e., the testimony of J. H. Wallis, Sr., who  had been through the temple about 20 times:

“MR. WALLIS: ‘ . . . [A]nother vow was what we used to call the “oath of vengeance.’ . . .

“MR. TAYLER: ‘Stand up, if it will help you, and give us the words, if you can.’

“MR.  WALLIS (standing up): ‘That you and each of you do promise and vow that  you will never cease to importune high heaven to avenge the blood of  the prophets upon the nations of the earth or the inhabitants of the  earth.’ (‘The Reed Smoot Case,’ vol. 2, pp. 77-79).

“The next day Mr. Wallis corrected his testimony concerning the oath of vengeance:

“MR.  WALLIS: ‘In repeating the obligation of vengeance I find I made a  mistake; I was wrong. It should have been ‘upon this nation.’ I had it  ‘upon the inhabitants of the earth.’ It was a mistake on my part.  (ibid., pp. 148-49).

(“Temple Work,” at: http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/changech22b.htm#532)
Rest assured, you will not hear Mitt Romney speaking publicly about any of this.

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Date: April 05, 2012 05:45PM

steve benson Wrote:

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> how constitutional was the Mormon secret temple

>”Oath of Vengeance”? . . .Just about as constitutional as were the secret

Endowment House oaths, on avenging the blood of

Joe and Hyrum Smith upon the people of Illinois.

“Long shall his blood which was shed by assassins…”

Just about as constitutional as the First Presidency’s

Message of July 4, 1838, delivered at Far West.

Just about as constitutional as the Church’s setting

David Whitmer apart and ordaining him Secretary of War.

Just about as constitutional as Joe organizing an armed

para-military expedition, and crossing state lines, to

threaten violence upon the Gentiles of Jackson and

Clay counties, Missouri, in the summer of 1834.

Just about as constitutional as Brigham Young declaring

martial law in Utah Territory in 1857, and forbidding the

passage of outsiders (U.S. troops, the Fanchers, etc.)

through his domain.

Just about as constitutional as the Quorum of Fifty

appointing secret USA ambassadors to foreign countries.

Just about as constitutional as Brigham running appointed

federal judges out of Utah Territory prior to 1858.

Need I continue?

UD

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Date: April 05, 2012 05:49PM

Big on the Constitution?I am regularly confronted by LDS bloggers who opine, “If people only knew how much Mormons _love_ the Constitution.”

UhHuh …

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Date: April 06, 2012 12:58AM

I’ve often tried to make your point about the oath, but they look at me stupidly. King James Bible Online

The Real Truth About The Red Mass – Red Mass History

Cardinal Archbishop of Washington Donald Wuerl, bottom center, speaks with U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, left, as Justices Elena Kagan, center right, and Stephen Breyer, top right, all talk on the steps of the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle after the 60th annual Red Mass at in Washington on Sunday Sept. 30, 2012. The Red Mass is held traditionally in Washington the day before the Supreme Court’s new term opens. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

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WASHINGTON — An American archbishop has reminded a congregation that included six Supreme Court justices Sunday to be open to the spirit of God, beg for his blessings and “strive to be instruments of a new evangelization.”

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“We must be loyal Americans by being bold and courageous men and women of faith and conviction regarding the ethical norms that guide society and its choices,” he said, paraphrasing a passage from a homily by Archbishop William Lori of Baltimore.

Six US Supreme Court Justices Present at Annual Red Mass in Washington DC

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2 days ago – The Red Mass is a mass celebrated annually in the Catholic Church for judges, attorneys, law school professors, students, and government .

… Breyer, top right, all talk on the steps of the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle after the 60th annual Red Mass at in Washington on Sunday Sept. 30, 2012.

WASHINGTON (AP) — An American archbishop has reminded a congregation that included six Supreme Court justices Sunday to be open to the spirit of God, beg for his blessings and “strive to be instruments of a new evangelization.”

The Archdiocese of Washington says Justices John Roberts, Antonin Scalia, Elena Kagan, Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas and Stephen Breyer were at the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle for Red Mass, celebrated the Sunday before the Supreme Court begins its new term.

The Most Rev. Timothy Broglio, archbishop for the military services, said the Mass was also “a moment to pause and pray for those who serve our country and foster justice for all.”

 Cardinal Archbishop of Washington Donald Wuerl speak with U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John G. Roberts on the steps of the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle after the 60th annual Red Mass in Washington on Sunday Sept. 30, 2012. The Red Mass is held traditionally in Washington the day before the Supreme Court’s new term opens. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

The Red Mass was started in Washington in 1952 by the John Carroll Society, a lay Catholic group of prominent lawyers and professionals. . . .

Lynn, an ordained minister with the United Church of Christ, noted the Mass was begun after several high court decisions that were disapproved of by the archdiocese.

“They figured if they got all the justices together and chatted them up in a worship service, they might be able to convince them to see the law their way,” he said.

In 1989, a top church official used the occasion of the Mass to call for a return to “religiously based moral values” and lament the “inviolable, impenetrable and towering wall” between church and state.

In 1986, Washington Cardinal James Hickey attacked the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion. .

For the most part the Red Mass is like any other Roman Catholic Mass. A sermon is given, the message which is delivered has an overlapping political and religious theme. The Mass is also an opportunity for the Catholic church to express its goals for the coming year. The most significant difference between the Red Mass and a traditional Mass is that the focuses of prayer and blessings concentrate on the leadership roles of those present. Guidance from the Holy Sprit is asked to be bestowed on the congregants. Other blessings that are commonly requested to prevail in the minds, offices, and court rooms are Divine strength, wisdom, truth, and justice. Peace and friendship are exchanged among the congregation, the sacraments are given, and the Mass is commenced.

With over half of the Supreme Court’s justices participating in this event, at a time when the Supreme Court has and will continue to face cases involving the separation of church and state, the event is considered controversial by some, even hough it attracts leaders from different religious backgrounds. (President Bush is an evangelical Protestant, Justice Breyer is Jewish.)

The Red Mass is called such due to the red vestments worn by Royal Judges participating in the Pope’s tribunal. Additionally the use of red garments continues today because of it’s representation of the Holy Sprit in Roman Catholic ritual. The tradition of the Red Mass extends back well before the establishment of the Supreme Court, to the Medieval Era. Although it is believed that the first Red Mass was held around 1200, it was not until 1245, in Paris, that the Mass was actually documented. As of 1310 the Mass had become an annual tradition in England to commemorate the beginning of each new Court term. From England the tradition of a yearly Red Mass spread throughout Europe. The tradition was adopted in the United States in the early 20th century.

The first American Red Mass was organized to promote Vatican policies. It was held at the Church of St. Andrew in New York City in 1928. After 1928 only a few Red Masses were held. But since 1953 Red Masses have been held annually in Washington DC. One of the principal reasons the Red Mass did not gain an earlier foothold in tradition in the United States may have been because of the widespread prejudice that existed against Catholicism. Although Catholicism is now regarded as a mainstream religion, prior to the 1950’s Catholicism was treated by many Protestants as sacrilegious if not pagan. A key turning point in the way Catholicism was regarded in the United States came in the 1950s when leading Catholic thinkers became identified with the anti-Communist movement. Faced with an outside enemy Protestants and Catholics united in a show of religious tolerance and Christian unity. (The first Catholic appointed to the Supreme Court was Roger Taney, who was appointed by Andrew Jackson. At the time of the 1953 Red Mass there were no Catholics on the Supreme Court, today (2012)  there are six Catholic justices, three Jewish justices and, for the first time in history, no Protestant justices. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, who came once and was so offended by the “outrageously anti-abortion” homily that she never returned.

The Red Mass Honoring the Inquisitor Thomas More

“The centennial was officially celebrated on Monday with a historical Red Mass in St. John’s Church. The Red Mass was designed to ask St. Thomas More and .

Thomas More the Inquisitor

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the burning of Tyndale Bibles

The Pope deemed Thomas More Patron Saint of the politicians But really he was a murderer and a very wicked man. (His wickedness is even documented in Foxe’s Book of Martyrs” in the 12th Chapter)

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Remember, They are honoring and giving the Sir Thomas More award to people at the Red Mass. Thomas More was a murderer and had many good men and women burned at the stake, including William Tyndale who was a main translator of the Bible into the English Language.

Separation of Church and State The question has been raised, and is now much agitated, if a theocracy was good in the time of Israel, why would not a theocratical … form of government be equally good for this time?


A True Theocracy

A theocracy is a government which derives its power immediately from God. The government of Israel was a true theocracy. That was really a government of God. At the burning bush, God commissioned Moses to lead his people out of Egypt. By signs and wonders and mighty miracles multiplied, God delivered Israel from Egypt and led them through the wilderness and finally into the promised land. There he ruled them by judges “until Samuel the prophet,” to whom, when he was a child, God spoke, and by whom He made known His will.

In the days of Samuel the people asked that they might have a king. This was allowed, and God chose Saul, and Samuel anointed him king of Israel. Saul failed to do the will of God; and as he rejected the word of the Lord, the Lord rejected him from being king and sent Samuel to anoint David king of Israel; and David’s throne God established forevermore. When Solomon succeeded to the kingdom in the place of David his father, the record is: “then Solomon sat on the throne of the Lord as king instead of David his father.” 1 Chronicles 29:23.

The Throne of the Lord “Whose Right It Is

David’s throne was the throne of the Lord, and Solomon sat on the throne of the Lord as king over the earthly kingdom of God. The succession to the throne descended in David’s line to Zedekiah, who was made subject to the king of Babylon, and who entered into a solemn covenant before God that he would loyally render allegiance to the king of Babylon. But Zedekiah broke his covenant, and then God said to him:

“thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end, thus saith the Lord God; remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high. I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and i will give it him.” Ezekiel 21:25-27. See also chapter 17:1-21.

The kingdom was then subject to Babylon. When Babylon fell, and Medo-Persia succeeded, it was overturned the first time. When Medo-Persia fell and was succeeded by Greece, it was overturned the second time. When the Greek empire gave way to Rome, it was overturned the third time. And then says the word, “it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and i will give it him.”

Who is he whose right it is? “thou . . . Shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the son of the highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: and he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.” Luke 1:31-33.

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
John 18:36

Thy Kingdom Come

And while He was here as “that prophet,” a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief, the night in which He was betrayed He Himself declared, “my kingdom is not of this world.” thus the throne of the Lord has been removed from this world and will “be no more, until he come whose right it is,” and then it will be given him. And that time is the end of this world, and the beginning of “the world to come.”

To the twelve apostles the Saviour said, “I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; that ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” luke 22:29, 30.

From Matthew’s account of Christ’s promise to the twelve we learn when it will be fulfilled; “in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” Matthew 19:28.

In the parable of the talents, Christ represents himself under the figure of a nobleman who “went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.” Luke 19:12. And he himself has told us when he will sit upon the throne of his glory: “when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: and before him shall be gathered all nations.” Matthew 25:31, 32.

Looking Forward

To this time the revelator looks forward when he says, “the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever.” Revelation 11:15. The context clearly shows when this will take place: “the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.” verse 18.

It is at the time of the final judgment, the reward of the righteous, and the punishment of the wicked that the kingdom of Christ will be set up. When all who oppose the sovereignty of Christ have been destroyed, the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ.

Then Christ will reign, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” Revelation 19:16. “and the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most high.” and “the saints of the most high shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom forever, even forever and ever.” Daniel 7:27, 18.

Until that time the kingdom of Christ cannot be established on the earth. His kingdom is not of this world. His followers are to account themselves “strangers and pilgrims on the earth.” Paul says, “our citizenship is in heaven; from whence also we wait for a Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.” Hebrews 11:13; Philippians 3:20, R.V.

Usurping God’s Authority

Since the kingdom of Israel passed away, God has never delegated authority to any man or body of men to execute his laws as such. “Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord” Romans 12:19. Civil governments have to do with the relations of man with man; but they have nothing whatever to do with the duties that grow out of man’s relation to God. Except the kingdom of Israel, no government has ever existed on the earth in which God by inspired men directed the affairs of state. Whenever men have endeavored to form such a government as that of Israel, they have, of necessity, taken it upon themselves to interpret and enforce the law of God. They have assumed the right to control the conscience, and thus have usurped the prerogative of God.

In the former dispensation, while sins against God were visited with temporal penalties, the judgments executed were not only by divine sanction, but under his direct control, and by his command. Sorcerers were to be put to death. Idolaters were to be slain. Profanity and sacrilege were punished with death. Whole nations of idolaters were to be exterminated. But the infliction of these penalties was directed by him who reads the hearts of men, who knows the measure of their guilt, and who deals with his creatures in wisdom and mercy. When men, with human frailties and passions, undertake to do this work, it needs no argument to show that the door is opened to unrestrained injustice and cruelty. The most inhuman crimes will be perpetrated, and all in the sacred name of Christ.

Foundation of Religious Tyranny

From the laws of Israel, which punished offenses against God, arguments have been drawn to prove the duty of punishing similar sins in this age. All persecutors have employed them to justify their deeds. The principle that God has delegated to human authority the right to control the conscience is the very foundation of religious tyranny and persecution. But all who reason thus lose sight of the fact that we are now living in a different dispensation, under conditions wholly different from those of Israel; that the kingdom of Israel was a type of the kingdom of Christ, which will not be set up until his second coming; and that the duties which pertain to man’s relation to God are not to be regulated or enforced by human authority.
Source: Patriarchs and Prophets, 1890, Appendix

Quotes by America’s Greatest Leaders
on the Relationship between Church and State

George Washington (First President of the United States of America.)
“Every man, conducting himself as a good citizen, and being accountable to God alone for his religious opinions, ought to be protected in worshiping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience.”May 1789

Thomas Jefferson (Third President of the United States of America)
“Almighty God hath created the mind free; all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments of burdens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in His almighty power to do.” Acts for Establishing Religious Freedom in Virginia, 1785 “I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, disciplines or exercises.” Words of Thomas Jefferson, Vol 5, pg 236

Abraham Lincoln (Sixteenth President of the United States of America)
“Our reliance is in the love of liberty which God has planted in us. Our defense is in the spirit which prizes liberty as the heritage of all men, in all lands everywhere. Destroy this spirit and you whave planted the seeds of despotism at your own doors. Familiarize yourself with the chains of bondage, and you prepare your own limbs to wear them. Accustomed to trample on the rights of others, you have lost the genious of your own independence and become the fit subjects of the first cunning tryant who rises among you.” Speech at Edwardsville, IL, 1858

Ulysses S. Grant (Eighteenth President of the United States of America)
“Declare church and state forever separate and distinct; but each free within their proper spheres.” Seventh annual message, Congress December 7, 1875. “Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and the private school supported entirely by private contribution. Keep church and state forever separate.” Des Moines, IA 1875.

James A. Garfield (Twentieth President of the United States of America) “Next in importance to freedom and justice is popular education, without which neither justice nor freedom can be permanently maintained. Its interests are intrusted to the States and the voluntary action of the people. Whatever help the nation can justly afford should be generously given to aid the States in supporting common schools; but it would be unjust to our people and dangerous to our institutions to apply any portion of the revenues of the nation or of the States to the support of sectarian schools. The separation of Church and State in everything relating to taxation should be absolute.” Letter of Acceptance of Nomination for the Presidency July 12, 1880

Theodore Roosevelt (Twenty-sixth President of the United States of America)
“I hold that in this country there must be complete severance of Church and State; that public moneys shall not be used for the purpose of advancing any particular creed; and therefore that the public schools shall be non-sectarian and no public moneys appropriated for sectarian schools.” New York, October 12, 1915

Benjamin Franklin (Statesman, Inventor, Author)
“When religion is good, it will take care of itself. When it is not able to take care of itself, and God does not see fit to take care of it, so that it has to appeal to the civil power for support, it is evidence to my mind that its cause is a bad one.”

“Those who would renegotiate the boundaries between church and state must therefore answer a difficult question: why would we trade a system that has served us so

Introduction to the concept of separation of church and state, and the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

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Systematic murder of believers the untold history of the inquisition by Richard Bennett

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The Untold History of the Inquisition

By Richard Bennett

Most people at the present time have some knowledge of the Holocaust, the six years of

unspeakable horror and suffering to which the Jewish people were subjected under Hitler and the

Nazis during the Second World War. Few, however, are aware of the atrocities of systematized

torture and murder of Bible-believing Christians and Jews that took place during the 605 years of

the Inquisition.1

From the beginning of the Papacy to the present time, it is estimated by reputable and

trustworthy historians that tens of millions of people have been tortured and killed by Papal

persecutors for the crime of believing God’s word in the Bible, rather than the dogmas of the

Roman Catholic Church. While the majority of those who suffered were true believers, Papal

Rome also persecuted Jews, Muslims, Knights Templar, and those that she called “witches.

Through the Inquisition was demonstrated the grace and divine power that the Lord gave

to His people to survive those horrific years with their faith strengthened. Also shown was the

inner heart of ritualistic Catholicism and the lengths to which it will go to enforce its will. It is

truly a warning for succeeding generations.

In 1203, Pope Innocent III published a decree in France that

began the extermination of what the Pope called heresy. This

marked the start of the Inquisition as a distinctive Papal

institution. It was to endure until its final dissolution in Spain

and Portugal in 1808. Pope Innocent III began by

commanding armies of the Crusade to attack the Albigenses

in France. They were called Albigenses because many of

them resided in the city of Albi in southern France. They had

developed a committed Christian life, real estate, progressive

cities, and townships right across southern France. These

Christians were horrifically destroyed and butchered by the

armies of Papal Rome in their many cities, towns, and villages

across southern France. The Albigenses came from a group

that was originally known as the Paulicians, who took their

teaching from the Apostle Paul. Even their name, ‘Albigenses,’ has been deeply tarnished by

Roman Catholic sources. Not only were they slaughtered, but their memory has been practically

obliterated from the pages of history. However, from their fruits as Christians, we truly see the

character of these men and women who traced their faith back to the writings of Paul the Apostle

in the New Testament.

From the thirteenth century onwards, the machinery of the Papal Inquisition’s terrorism

was created. The Popes compelled secular authorities to co-operate under threat of drastic

penalties. Kings and princes who disobeyed the Popes’ orders were to be excommunicated and

1 The main historians that wrote on the Inquisition are Dowling, Lea, Vancandard, Maycock,

Coulton, Turberville and Scott

2

their subjects released from loyalty to them. In 1252, Pope Innocent IV devised in detail for the

many Inquisitors how torture was to be carried out. He did this in his decree called, At

Extirpanda. Confirmatory or regulatory decrees were later issued by Popes Alexander IV,

Clement IV, Urban IV, and Clement V. Torture was prescribed, but it was to stop short of

pulling off limbs or causing death. Disastrous punishments were enacted on all who protected or

gave help to believers. Those who applied the instruments of torture during the Inquisition were

following orders. The Popes themselves were wholly responsible for the instruments and how

they were used.

Then, in 1487, Pope Innocent VIII planned and ordered the persecution of the Vaudois

believers who had remained faithful to biblical faith since apostolic times.

Charles VIII of France agreed to raise an army for the destruction of the Vaudois.The Pope promised forgiveness of sins and a share in the goods to those who participated. The army was joined by thousands of gangsters urged on by the promise of forgiveness of sins and the

expectation of obtaining spoil from the Vaudois possessions. This army attacked the Vaudois mountain valleys in northern Italy. Thousands of Bible-believing Christians perished along with their homes while their crops were destroyed.Entire villages were demolished. Their women were raped and then viciously

murdered.True Believers: the Vaudois in Piedmont Valley For the most part, there is agreement among scholars about the history of the Inquisition.Lea’s great works, the History of the Inquisition in the Middle Ages and the History of the Inquisition of Spain, embodied immense and careful research. There is little difference about facts in the writings of Dowling, Vancandard, Maycock, Coulton, and Turberville. The methods of the Inquisition were an outrage to elementary principles of justice. Anyone could be arrested

on suspicion. The trials were secret. The prisoner was not allowed to know the accusers or witnesses. The Bishops and priests who acted as judges had absolute power. The evidence of infamous persons, criminals, or perjurers was admitted so long as it was hostile. Children older than twelve were required to bear testimony. The prisoner was disallowed the help of an advocate, for anyone defending a prisoner was held guilty of the crime of heresy. A person tried by the Inquisition was scarcely ever acquitted. “In the register of Carcassonne from 1249 to 1258, comprising about two hundred cases, there is not a single case in which a prisoner was

discharged as innocent.” Tanon, a French investigator, wrote, “There is scarcely ever an acquittal, pure and simple, in the sentence of the Inquisition.”2 There were many accounts of burning at the stake across Europe. The ferocious Inquisitor, Robert le Bugre, who considered his mission was “not to convert but to burn,”

devastated much of France. In one period of about three months he is said to have thus

dispatched about fifty prisoners of either sex, and the whole number of his victims during the

several years of his unchecked career was very large.3 The notorious Conrad of Marburg caused a general panic in Germany where he was appointed Inquisitor by Pope Gregory IX. In 1520, Pope Leo X in his famous decree, Exsurge Domine, denounced the teachings of Luther with the following words, “That heretics should be burned is contrary to the will of the Spirit. The Roman Catholic scholar Lord Acton wrote,

“Rome taught for four centuries that no Catholic could be saved who denied that heretics ought

to be put to death.”

The prisons of the Inquisition were some of the most common and atrocious places. The Inquisitors could leave people in their prisons indefinitely, without trial. The Inquisitor Eymeric, in his

records called Directorium, stated that a person believed guilty “shall be shut up in prison, strictly confined and in chains. If he shows no willingness to be converted there is no need for haste for the pains and privations of imprisonment often bring about a change of mind.”5 To quote Lea, “The dungeons of the

Inquisition were abodes of fearful misery, but where there were reasons for increasing their terrors there was no difficulty in increasing the hardships. The chains and starvation in a stifling

hole was a favorite device for extracting confession from unwilling lips.”

Historians give us some detailed information about some of the prisons of the Inquisition. Even some Catholic priests complained about the prison conditions in some towns in the south of France. Historians tell that the cells were fitted up with a variety of

instruments to cause severe suffering. Many prisoners, through the severity of their torments,

lost the use of their limbs and were rendered utterly helpless.

The burning at the stake was the standard way that the Papacy disposed of believers.

This was usually done with dramatic pomp and festivity before the massive gatherings of people.

It was as if the Roman Church believed that both their bodies and beliefs would disappear into

cinders. In England, Mary Tudor, known as “Bloody Mary,” a fervent Catholic beholden to the

Pope, employed the Inquisition to burn no fewer than 288 Bible-believing martyrs. Most of

them died because they denied the Catholic dogma that Jesus Christ is really present, flesh and

blood, body and soul, divinity and humanity in the communion bread. The burning back to back

of Bishops Hugh Latimer and Nicholas Ridley at the stake outside Balliol College Oxford, in

1555, is known to many people. So also are Latimer’s stirring last words an inspiration to

Christians over the centuries, “Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall

this day, by God’s grace, light such a candle in England as I trust shall never be put out.”

3Lea, History of the Inquisition in the Middle Ages, Vol. 11, p. 116

4 Lord Acton Correspondence, Vol. 1, p. 108

5Maycock, The Inquisition, p. 157

6Lea, History of the Inquisition in the Middle Ages, Vol. 1, p. 420

4

The Instruments of Torture

“The Rack” is one of the best known forms of medieval torture. This mechanism operated by

having the victim lie on a horizontal rack with his hands and ankles tied to rollers on opposite

ends.

The Inquisitors would perform the

interrogation while turning the rollers,

stretching the body of the suspect and

causing colossal pain.

They would stretch the body out until the joints were actually yanked from their sockets. The

ultimate intent was that of killing the victim either through shock or injuries. If the believer were

still alive, yet refused to submit, he or she was sent to be burned at the stake.

Besides the Rack, there was the torture of pulling the believer towards the ceiling with

ropes, and then with a weight on his or her feet, dropping him or her to the floor so that

excruciating pain ripped through the body.

The Inquisitors also used “Skull Crusher.” They ordered the believer’s chin to be

placed on a lower bar and a screw then forced an iron cap down on his or her head.

Their teeth could be crushed. Their eyes could be squeezed from their sockets.

It was hoped that the believer was so overcome by the extreme pain of having his

head crushed would confess his alleged errors and believe in the Holy Mother

Church.

The Inquisitors also used the “Iron Maiden.” It was a tomb-sized container

with folding doors. The spiked studded arms wrapped around the victim in such a way so as to

puncture parts of the entire body, including the ears and eyes.

The purpose of the use of Iron Maiden was to inflict pain by means of

vicious spikes and a slow death. The prickles inside were designed so that

the trapped believer was left to slowly die in the utmost pain.

A prisoner would be bidden to stand right in front of Iron Maiden prior to

torture. The spring would be touched by the executioner and the Iron

Maiden would fling open her arms, and the wretched victim would

straightway be forced within them. Another spring was then touched and the Iron Maiden closed upon her victim. Then spiky arms of the Iron Maiden slowly but irresistibly closed upon the man, cruelly goring him.

The talons Iron Maiden, sometimes called the “Iron Virgin,” were not designed to kill outright. They trapped the prisoner who was left  to slowly perish in the utmost pain. Beside these instruments of torture there were others for the tearing and ripping of one’s flesh.

The Catholic Church learned a human being could live

until the skin was peeled down to the waist. Often the

torturers heated these instruments and then used them on

women’s breasts and the genital organs of both sexes.

There were also instruments for compressing the fingers until the bones would be squeezed into

splinters. There were instruments for probing below the fingernails until pain like burning fire

would run along the nerves.

There were instruments for tearing out the tongue, for scooping out the eyes, and for rooting out the ears. There wasa bunch of iron cords with a spiked circle at the end of every whip for tearing the flesh from the back until bone and sinew were laid bare.

There were also iron cases for the legs, which were tightened upon the limb placed in them by means of a screw, till flesh and bone were reduced to a pulp.

The thumbscrews were also applied to crush prisoners’ toes, while larger, heavier devices based on the same design principle were applied to destroy knees and elbows.

The Chair of Nails Torture

The chair nails, used by Inquisitors, was studded with spikes. The victim was strapped naked in the chair and a fire was lit beneath it. Heavy

objects were placed upon the victim to increase the pain of the spikes.

Blows with mallets were also used to inflict more pain.

There were also devices to slowly and painfully remove the intestines and

other organs from the body while keeping the person alive and conscious

of the pain. Anyone of those horrors could be inflicted on anybody, i.e.,

man, woman, or child over the age of 12 that did not agree with the

teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. The Inquisition was carried out in France, Holland, Germany, Spain, and Italy.

The Stocks Torture

The victims often had their feet placed in stocks. The

stocks comprised two pieces of timber clamped together,

over and under, across each leg above the ankles. The

soles of the victim’s feet were greased with lard and a

blazing brazier was applied to them. Their feet were first

blistered and then fried. At intervals, a plank was

interposed between the fire and their feet. This plank was

to be immediately removed if the victims failed to admit

that they were guilty as charged.

The Inquisition in Spain perpetrated horrors on a more terrific scale than in other

countries. Activities in Spain were more atrocious and its hecatombs of victims more numerous

than elsewhere. The atrocities of the Spanish Inquisition cannot be disputed. Torquemada, the

most infamous of the Inquisitors for ferocity, had full papal authorization. He was commissioned

by Pope Sixtus IV in 1483. He was re-commissioned by Innocent VIII in 1485. So far were the

popes from seeking to hold back Torquemada’s inhuman cruelties that we find them praising him

and encouraging him. Pope Sixtus IV wrote to him praised his zeal, saying “We commend you

in the Lord and exhort you, cherished son, to persevere with tireless zeal in aiding and promoting

the cause of faith, by doing which, as we are assured you will, you will win our special favor.”

In Spain the burnings of believers was called “Autos-da-fé” there they had peculiar pomp and

festivity. As late as 1680 there was a stunning Auto-da-fé at Madrid at which one hundred

believers were burned. The historian Turberville quotes Voltaire’s comment; “that an Asiatic

arriving in Madrid on such an occasion would be doubtful whether he was witnessing a festival,

a religious ceremony, a sacrifice, or a massacre; it was in fact all of these.”7 The Judas Chair was

also a torture device used in the Spanish Inquisition.

The Actual Judas Chair and the Art work showing Chair as it was used

The Judas Chair, also known as the Judas Cradle, was a pyramid-shaped seat. The victim was placed on

top of it, with the point inserted into their orifices, then very slowly lowered by ropes.

The purpose was to Turberville,

The Spanish Inquisition, stretch the orifice over a long period of time in extreme pain in order that the victim would renounce his or her faith. Then bishops and priests of the Inquisition used a devise for breaking a believer’s faith as he was

tied to a wheel. Clubbing and mocking would accompany this torture.

An attempt to break a believer’s faith as he was tied to a wheel Then there was the commonly used torture technique called the “Strappado.’ All that was needed was a sturdy rafter and some rope. The victims wrists were bound behind their back and the rope tossed over the beam or on a pulley. The victim was  repeatedly dropped from a height so their arms and shoulders would dislocate. This and many more torture devices were use to get the believer to renounce his or her Christian faith, and then profess his or her faith in the Roman Church. We rejoice that the believers for the most part, remained true to the Lord. We realize that  Bible believers in those horrendous years were fortified by the power of

God through faith. They experienced what the Apostle Peter wrote that as believers we are “kept by the power of God through faith.” Consequently, kept by the power of God, their faith resounded at that time before the throne of God, and it still resounds on the pages of history for those who dare comprehend the true historical accounts. The torture chambers of the Inquisition lasted 605 years and were found throughout the nationscontrolled by Papal Rome. They had their beginning under Pope Innocent III in 1203 until the

Inquisition’s final dissolution in Spain and Portugal in 1808.

Twentieth Century Inquisition in Croatia

In 1929, Mussolini signed the Lateran Treaty with Pope Pius XI officially conceding Vatican

Hill to the Pope. The Papacy once again became a sovereign civil state. The legal agreement

between Mussolini and the Vatican was just the beginning. Following this, the Papacy formed

alliances in the twentieth century with Roman Catholic dictators such as Adolph Hitler of

Germany, Francisco Franco of Spain, Antonio Salazar of Portugal, and Juan Peron of Argentina.

But the alliance that proved to be the most brutal and bloodthirsty of all was that between the

Papacy and Anton Pavelic in Croatia. It was agreed that Anton Pavelic8 was to be head of the

new nation state of Croatia, which was carved out of Yugoslavia during the Second World War.

During Pavelic’s four-year reign, he and Roman Catholic

Prelate, Archbishop Alois Stepinac, pursued a “convert or

die” policy among the 900,000 Greek Othodox Serbs,

Jews, and others in Croatia. 200,000 were converted; the

700,000 who chose to die were tortured, burned, buried

alive, or shot after digging their own graves. This

appalling persecution carried out by the Ustashis included

many of the worst atrocities of history. The mutilations

were horrific, the tortures vicious, and the savagery

terrible. The Catholic Church did not leave the execution

of a religious war to the secular arm. She was there herself, openly ignoring precautions and bolder than she had been for a very long time. Wielding the hatchet or dagger, pulling the trigger, organizing the massacre, the Roman  Anton Pavelic with Archbishop Stepina Catholic priests became their own instruments of the

Inquisition.Anton Pavelic with Franciscan Monks  Many of the Ustashi

officers were priests or friars sworn to fight “with

dagger or gun,” for the “triumph of Christ and Croatia.” Priests played a prominent role in the

closing or takeover of Serbian Orthodox Churches,

the seizure of church records and the interrogation of the Serbian Orthodox clergy. They

also supervised concentration camps and organized the torture of many of the victims.

Ante Pavelic b. July 14, 1889 – d. December 28, 1959

French author Edmond Paris, who was born a Roman Catholic and has written a very thorough

account of this terrible massacre in his book Convert or Die, has said,

“It is difficult for the world to believe that a whole people could be doomed to

extermination by a government and religious hierarchy of the twentieth century, just

because it happened to belong to another ethnical and racial group and had inherited the

Christianity of Byzantium rather than that of Rome.”

The creation of the entirely Roman Catholic, independent State of Croatia during the Second

World War was accompanied by a persecution so ferocious that it is difficult to find a parallel in

all of history. The Inquisition applied to the Serbian Orthodox by the Croatian Catholics

accounted for 700,000 Serbs being tortured and killed in just four years. So while the Inquisition

ended in the nineteenth century, the same procedures and mindset were evident in Croatia in the

twentieth century. In fact, the same mindset is still officially maintained by the Papacy in the

twenty-first century. The Roman Church to this day maintains the laws that she used as her

authority to torture and murder Bible believers for over 600 years. In her present-day laws she

states her right to coerce Christian people. Thus Canon law, Canon 1311, states,

“The [Catholic] Church has an innate and proper right to coerce offending members of

the Christian faithful by means of papal sanctions.”

The Catholic Church also holds to the fact that she can demand a submission of intellect and will

as she did in the years of the Inquisition. Consequently she states the following,

“A religious respect of intellect and will, even if not the assent of faith, is to be paid to

the teaching which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops enunciate on faith and

morals.”

So to whatever the Supreme Pontiff or his college of bishops teach on faith and morals, a person

must submit their intellect and will. This is the same teaching that was upheld with the terrors of

the Inquisition for 600 years. While there are no sanctions in torture and death at the present

time, the same astonishing mindset is Roman Catholic law. The fact is that the Papacy still

claims the right to judge and impose chastening that has not changed since the days of the

Inquisition. In present-day Canon Law she also decrees,

Canon 1405 (Sect.1) “It is the right of the Roman Pontiff himself alone to judge in cases

mentioned in can. 1401: 1. those who hold the highest civil office in a state;…

Canon 1401 “By proper and exclusive right the Church adjudicates: 1. cases concerning

spiritual matters or connected with the spiritual; 2. the violation of ecclesiastical laws and all

those cases in which there is a question of sin in respect to the determination of culpability

and the imposition of ecclesiastical penalties.”

The Holy Spirit’s admonition to believers is to be remembered as these decrees are certified into

law, “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not

entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”

In past times, kings and princes and nations were supposed to tremble at her decrees.

Woe to him who resisted! Subjects were released from their oaths of allegiance; whole states

were placed under interdict. By deception regarding the Gospel and, subsequently, by force the

Papacy has held her domain together. She has only external unity, as any one who has lived

within her system and studied her decrees and history knows. It is of signal importance to realize

that the Roman Catholic Church has no other way to maintain her life than by imposition of her

external laws, because she lacks the life giving power of the Holy Spirit and unity of the One

9 Galatians 5:1.

Body of the Lord Jesus Christ. She must legislate to exist, and she needs civil powers to enforce

her decrees. It is crucial to understand that suppression and control are her main stratagems,

although at the time such are not apparent. If control by her is to be avoided, her paradigm must

be understood.

The Lord’s Final Victory

Papal Rome has asked pardon for the wrongs of the Inquisition. During a Mass on March 12,

2000, Pope John Paul II asked pardon for wrongs committed in the past by members of the

church. It was not individual members of the church, but as Lord Acton observed, it was “the

Popes in particular that caused and instigated the sufferings and persecutions, involving

themselves in detail even in the minute ways that believers were to be tortured.”

We have seen how the institutionalized Papacy and the powers of darkness have conspired

against Christ’s kingdom and His people. It is most important to know what the Lord’s anointed

has to say about His kingdom and to know that all the powers on earth cannot challenge Him.

As Psalm 2 reminds us, the Messiah reigns and His Throne is not moved, nor has His plans

changed, whatever may be the turmoil and schemes against Him. While the enemies of the

Gospel are plotting and planning how to break His bands asunder and cast His cords from them,

He has already defeated their devices and He says to them, “yet have I set my king upon my holy

hill of Zion.”10 All events are in His hands. Who can stand against the Almighty?

Things are not as they seem. It looks as if the powers that designed and implemented the

Inquisition still govern the hearts of much of mankind at the present time. The Lord God’s fixed

decrees remain and all the schemes of hell cannot efface a single part of His purpose. He reigns

by inheritance, “Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”11 The Lord God owns Him, and

declares Him Lord and Head of the Church. The supreme government of the Church is His

responsibility and He will bring it to complete success including the punishment of His enemies.

It necessarily follows that though Papal Rome has been a rebel against the government of Christ

Jesus, the Lord God has nonetheless fulfilled His purpose through all the terrible evil that has

taken place. The truth is that through all the dreadful deeds of Papal Rome, the Sovereign Lord

Jesus Christ was entirely with His people, and He was in control of all events so that the faith

and witness of millions shone forth both in this world and before the throne of God; and will

shine forth throughout all the ages of the world to come.

From the beginning the Lord God purposed to glorify Himself “in the Church by Christ Jesus,

throughout all ages, world without end.”12 He has glorified Himself in the faith and suffering of

true believers throughout the 605 years of the Inquisition, as His Word proclaims, “the Lord

reigneth; let the people tremble.”13

The voice of the Lord thunders from the final chapters of the Bible and reverberates throughout

the world, “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive

not of her plagues.”14 While the Papacy from the city of Rome continues to wax strong her final

condemnation is already written, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made

all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”15 The Lord God’s reserved wrath,

His punishing justice, and His enmity to sin, will be revealed to the entire world. The destruction

of Papal Rome will proceed from the glory of His power. “The same shall drink of the wine of

the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation.”16 The

certainty of the final triumph should animate us in our efforts, and true believers in their

struggles.

The frequently quoted maxim that “peoples ignorant of history are destined to repeat it” is true.

Without the knowledge of the systematic murder of believers during the Inquisition, we can fail

to see that the true Gospel is a matter of life. True believers are in real danger of compromise

with the Church of Rome. As the Apostle Paul told believers, “All who live godly in Christ Jesus

will suffer persecution.”17 The victory of the faith and courage of believers over the severest

trials is repeatedly recorded in the pages of history. As the Lord Himself proclaimed, “Be not

afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. Also I say unto

you, whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the

angels of God.”18 Where there is true faith and love of the Lord, there is in the midst of all

afflictions a joy unspeakable and full of glory. God is the only Holy Father, the All Holy One.

His holiness is the distinguishing factor in all His essential characteristics. This is the reason

why we need to be in right standing before the one and only All Holy God on the terms He

prescribes. Turn to God in faith alone, in Christ alone, for the salvation that He alone gives, by

the conviction of the Holy Spirit, based on Christ’s death and resurrection for His own, and

believe on Him alone, “to the praise of the glory of his grace.”

Source : http://www.bereanbeacon.org/SMBe.pdf

Rupert Murdoch

(Chairman & Chief Executive Officer of News Corporation) Papal Knight of St. Gregory. Rupert was born Roman Catholic (Rupert’s geneology). His mother’s maiden name was “Greene”  In 1998 Rupert was made a Knight of the Order of St. Gregory the great. Another Knight of the Order of St Gregory the Great was John J Raskob who was married to another “Greene” (Helena).

Systematic murder of believers the untold history of the inquisition by Richard Bennett

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The Untold History of the Inquisition

By Richard Bennett

Most people at the present time have some knowledge of the Holocaust, the six years of

unspeakable horror and suffering to which the Jewish people were subjected under Hitler and the

Nazis during the Second World War. Few, however, are aware of the atrocities of systematized

torture and murder of Bible-believing Christians and Jews that took place during the 605 years of

the Inquisition.1

From the beginning of the Papacy to the present time, it is estimated by reputable and

trustworthy historians that tens of millions of people have been tortured and killed by Papal

persecutors for the crime of believing God’s word in the Bible, rather than the dogmas of the

Roman Catholic Church. While the majority of those who suffered were true believers, Papal

Rome also persecuted Jews, Muslims, Knights Templar, and those that she called “witches.

Through the Inquisition was demonstrated the grace and divine power that the Lord gave

to His people to survive those horrific years with their faith strengthened. Also shown was the

inner heart of ritualistic Catholicism and the lengths to which it will go to enforce its will. It is

truly a warning for succeeding generations.

In 1203, Pope Innocent III published a decree in France that

began the extermination of what the Pope called heresy. This

marked the start of the Inquisition as a distinctive Papal

institution. It was to endure until its final dissolution in Spain

and Portugal in 1808. Pope Innocent III began by

commanding armies of the Crusade to attack the Albigenses

in France. They were called Albigenses because many of

them resided in the city of Albi in southern France. They had

developed a committed Christian life, real estate, progressive

cities, and townships right across southern France. These

Christians were horrifically destroyed and butchered by the

armies of Papal Rome in their many cities, towns, and villages

across southern France. The Albigenses came from a group

that was originally known as the Paulicians, who took their

teaching from the Apostle Paul. Even their name, ‘Albigenses,’ has been deeply tarnished by

Roman Catholic sources. Not only were they slaughtered, but their memory has been practically

obliterated from the pages of history. However, from their fruits as Christians, we truly see the

character of these men and women who traced their faith back to the writings of Paul the Apostle

in the New Testament.

From the thirteenth century onwards, the machinery of the Papal Inquisition’s terrorism

was created. The Popes compelled secular authorities to co-operate under threat of drastic

penalties. Kings and princes who disobeyed the Popes’ orders were to be excommunicated and

1 The main historians that wrote on the Inquisition are Dowling, Lea, Vancandard, Maycock,

Coulton, Turberville and Scott

2

their subjects released from loyalty to them. In 1252, Pope Innocent IV devised in detail for the

many Inquisitors how torture was to be carried out. He did this in his decree called, At

Extirpanda. Confirmatory or regulatory decrees were later issued by Popes Alexander IV,

Clement IV, Urban IV, and Clement V. Torture was prescribed, but it was to stop short of

pulling off limbs or causing death. Disastrous punishments were enacted on all who protected or

gave help to believers. Those who applied the instruments of torture during the Inquisition were

following orders. The Popes themselves were wholly responsible for the instruments and how

they were used.

Then, in 1487, Pope Innocent VIII planned and ordered the persecution of the Vaudois

believers who had remained faithful to biblical faith since apostolic times.

Charles VIII of France agreed to raise an army for the destruction of the Vaudois.The Pope promised forgiveness of sins and a share in the goods to those who participated. The army was joined by thousands of gangsters urged on by the promise of forgiveness of sins and the

expectation of obtaining spoil from the Vaudois possessions. This army attacked the Vaudois mountain valleys in northern Italy. Thousands of Bible-believing Christians perished along with their homes while their crops were destroyed.Entire villages were demolished. Their women were raped and then viciously

murdered.True Believers: the Vaudois in Piedmont Valley For the most part, there is agreement among scholars about the history of the Inquisition.Lea’s great works, the History of the Inquisition in the Middle Ages and the History of the Inquisition of Spain, embodied immense and careful research. There is little difference about facts in the writings of Dowling, Vancandard, Maycock, Coulton, and Turberville. The methods of the Inquisition were an outrage to elementary principles of justice. Anyone could be arrested

on suspicion. The trials were secret. The prisoner was not allowed to know the accusers or witnesses. The Bishops and priests who acted as judges had absolute power. The evidence of infamous persons, criminals, or perjurers was admitted so long as it was hostile. Children older than twelve were required to bear testimony. The prisoner was disallowed the help of an advocate, for anyone defending a prisoner was held guilty of the crime of heresy. A person tried by the Inquisition was scarcely ever acquitted. “In the register of Carcassonne from 1249 to 1258, comprising about two hundred cases, there is not a single case in which a prisoner was

discharged as innocent.” Tanon, a French investigator, wrote, “There is scarcely ever an acquittal, pure and simple, in the sentence of the Inquisition.”2 There were many accounts of burning at the stake across Europe. The ferocious Inquisitor, Robert le Bugre, who considered his mission was “not to convert but to burn,”

devastated much of France. In one period of about three months he is said to have thus

dispatched about fifty prisoners of either sex, and the whole number of his victims during the

several years of his unchecked career was very large.3 The notorious Conrad of Marburg caused a general panic in Germany where he was appointed Inquisitor by Pope Gregory IX. In 1520, Pope Leo X in his famous decree, Exsurge Domine, denounced the teachings of Luther with the following words, “That heretics should be burned is contrary to the will of the Spirit. The Roman Catholic scholar Lord Acton wrote,

“Rome taught for four centuries that no Catholic could be saved who denied that heretics ought

to be put to death.”

The prisons of the Inquisition were some of the most common and atrocious places. The Inquisitors could leave people in their prisons indefinitely, without trial. The Inquisitor Eymeric, in his

records called Directorium, stated that a person believed guilty “shall be shut up in prison, strictly confined and in chains. If he shows no willingness to be converted there is no need for haste for the pains and privations of imprisonment often bring about a change of mind.”5 To quote Lea, “The dungeons of the

Inquisition were abodes of fearful misery, but where there were reasons for increasing their terrors there was no difficulty in increasing the hardships. The chains and starvation in a stifling

hole was a favorite device for extracting confession from unwilling lips.”

Historians give us some detailed information about some of the prisons of the Inquisition. Even some Catholic priests complained about the prison conditions in some towns in the south of France. Historians tell that the cells were fitted up with a variety of

instruments to cause severe suffering. Many prisoners, through the severity of their torments,

lost the use of their limbs and were rendered utterly helpless.

The burning at the stake was the standard way that the Papacy disposed of believers.

This was usually done with dramatic pomp and festivity before the massive gatherings of people.

It was as if the Roman Church believed that both their bodies and beliefs would disappear into

cinders. In England, Mary Tudor, known as “Bloody Mary,” a fervent Catholic beholden to the

Pope, employed the Inquisition to burn no fewer than 288 Bible-believing martyrs. Most of

them died because they denied the Catholic dogma that Jesus Christ is really present, flesh and

blood, body and soul, divinity and humanity in the communion bread. The burning back to back

of Bishops Hugh Latimer and Nicholas Ridley at the stake outside Balliol College Oxford, in

1555, is known to many people. So also are Latimer’s stirring last words an inspiration to

Christians over the centuries, “Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall

this day, by God’s grace, light such a candle in England as I trust shall never be put out.”

3Lea, History of the Inquisition in the Middle Ages, Vol. 11, p. 116

4 Lord Acton Correspondence, Vol. 1, p. 108

5Maycock, The Inquisition, p. 157

6Lea, History of the Inquisition in the Middle Ages, Vol. 1, p. 420

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The Instruments of Torture

“The Rack” is one of the best known forms of medieval torture. This mechanism operated by

having the victim lie on a horizontal rack with his hands and ankles tied to rollers on opposite

ends.

The Inquisitors would perform the

interrogation while turning the rollers,

stretching the body of the suspect and

causing colossal pain.

They would stretch the body out until the joints were actually yanked from their sockets. The

ultimate intent was that of killing the victim either through shock or injuries. If the believer were

still alive, yet refused to submit, he or she was sent to be burned at the stake.

Besides the Rack, there was the torture of pulling the believer towards the ceiling with

ropes, and then with a weight on his or her feet, dropping him or her to the floor so that

excruciating pain ripped through the body.

The Inquisitors also used “Skull Crusher.” They ordered the believer’s chin to be

placed on a lower bar and a screw then forced an iron cap down on his or her head.

Their teeth could be crushed. Their eyes could be squeezed from their sockets.

It was hoped that the believer was so overcome by the extreme pain of having his

head crushed would confess his alleged errors and believe in the Holy Mother

Church.

The Inquisitors also used the “Iron Maiden.” It was a tomb-sized container

with folding doors. The spiked studded arms wrapped around the victim in such a way so as to

puncture parts of the entire body, including the ears and eyes.

The purpose of the use of Iron Maiden was to inflict pain by means of

vicious spikes and a slow death. The prickles inside were designed so that

the trapped believer was left to slowly die in the utmost pain.

A prisoner would be bidden to stand right in front of Iron Maiden prior to

torture. The spring would be touched by the executioner and the Iron

Maiden would fling open her arms, and the wretched victim would

straightway be forced within them. Another spring was then touched and the Iron Maiden closed upon her victim. Then spiky arms of the Iron Maiden slowly but irresistibly closed upon the man, cruelly goring him.

The talons Iron Maiden, sometimes called the “Iron Virgin,” were not designed to kill outright. They trapped the prisoner who was left  to slowly perish in the utmost pain. Beside these instruments of torture there were others for the tearing and ripping of one’s flesh.

The Catholic Church learned a human being could live

until the skin was peeled down to the waist. Often the

torturers heated these instruments and then used them on

women’s breasts and the genital organs of both sexes.

There were also instruments for compressing the fingers until the bones would be squeezed into

splinters. There were instruments for probing below the fingernails until pain like burning fire

would run along the nerves.

There were instruments for tearing out the tongue, for scooping out the eyes, and for rooting out the ears. There wasa bunch of iron cords with a spiked circle at the end of every whip for tearing the flesh from the back until bone and sinew were laid bare.

There were also iron cases for the legs, which were tightened upon the limb placed in them by means of a screw, till flesh and bone were reduced to a pulp.

The thumbscrews were also applied to crush prisoners’ toes, while larger, heavier devices based on the same design principle were applied to destroy knees and elbows.

The Chair of Nails Torture

The chair nails, used by Inquisitors, was studded with spikes. The victim was strapped naked in the chair and a fire was lit beneath it. Heavy

objects were placed upon the victim to increase the pain of the spikes.

Blows with mallets were also used to inflict more pain.

There were also devices to slowly and painfully remove the intestines and

other organs from the body while keeping the person alive and conscious

of the pain. Anyone of those horrors could be inflicted on anybody, i.e.,

man, woman, or child over the age of 12 that did not agree with the

teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. The Inquisition was carried out in France, Holland, Germany, Spain, and Italy.

The Stocks Torture

The victims often had their feet placed in stocks. The

stocks comprised two pieces of timber clamped together,

over and under, across each leg above the ankles. The

soles of the victim’s feet were greased with lard and a

blazing brazier was applied to them. Their feet were first

blistered and then fried. At intervals, a plank was

interposed between the fire and their feet. This plank was

to be immediately removed if the victims failed to admit

that they were guilty as charged.

The Inquisition in Spain perpetrated horrors on a more terrific scale than in other

countries. Activities in Spain were more atrocious and its hecatombs of victims more numerous

than elsewhere. The atrocities of the Spanish Inquisition cannot be disputed. Torquemada, the

most infamous of the Inquisitors for ferocity, had full papal authorization. He was commissioned

by Pope Sixtus IV in 1483. He was re-commissioned by Innocent VIII in 1485. So far were the

popes from seeking to hold back Torquemada’s inhuman cruelties that we find them praising him

and encouraging him. Pope Sixtus IV wrote to him praised his zeal, saying “We commend you

in the Lord and exhort you, cherished son, to persevere with tireless zeal in aiding and promoting

the cause of faith, by doing which, as we are assured you will, you will win our special favor.”

In Spain the burnings of believers was called “Autos-da-fé” there they had peculiar pomp and

festivity. As late as 1680 there was a stunning Auto-da-fé at Madrid at which one hundred

believers were burned. The historian Turberville quotes Voltaire’s comment; “that an Asiatic

arriving in Madrid on such an occasion would be doubtful whether he was witnessing a festival,

a religious ceremony, a sacrifice, or a massacre; it was in fact all of these.”7 The Judas Chair was

also a torture device used in the Spanish Inquisition.

The Actual Judas Chair and the Art work showing Chair as it was used

The Judas Chair, also known as the Judas Cradle, was a pyramid-shaped seat. The victim was placed on

top of it, with the point inserted into their orifices, then very slowly lowered by ropes.

The purpose was to Turberville,

The Spanish Inquisition, stretch the orifice over a long period of time in extreme pain in order that the victim would renounce his or her faith. Then bishops and priests of the Inquisition used a devise for breaking a believer’s faith as he was

tied to a wheel. Clubbing and mocking would accompany this torture.

An attempt to break a believer’s faith as he was tied to a wheel Then there was the commonly used torture technique called the “Strappado.’ All that was needed was a sturdy rafter and some rope. The victims wrists were bound behind their back and the rope tossed over the beam or on a pulley. The victim was  repeatedly dropped from a height so their arms and shoulders would dislocate. This and many more torture devices were use to get the believer to renounce his or her Christian faith, and then profess his or her faith in the Roman Church. We rejoice that the believers for the most part, remained true to the Lord. We realize that  Bible believers in those horrendous years were fortified by the power of

God through faith. They experienced what the Apostle Peter wrote that as believers we are “kept by the power of God through faith.” Consequently, kept by the power of God, their faith resounded at that time before the throne of God, and it still resounds on the pages of history for those who dare comprehend the true historical accounts. The torture chambers of the Inquisition lasted 605 years and were found throughout the nationscontrolled by Papal Rome. They had their beginning under Pope Innocent III in 1203 until the

Inquisition’s final dissolution in Spain and Portugal in 1808.

Twentieth Century Inquisition in Croatia

In 1929, Mussolini signed the Lateran Treaty with Pope Pius XI officially conceding Vatican

Hill to the Pope. The Papacy once again became a sovereign civil state. The legal agreement

between Mussolini and the Vatican was just the beginning. Following this, the Papacy formed

alliances in the twentieth century with Roman Catholic dictators such as Adolph Hitler of

Germany, Francisco Franco of Spain, Antonio Salazar of Portugal, and Juan Peron of Argentina.

But the alliance that proved to be the most brutal and bloodthirsty of all was that between the

Papacy and Anton Pavelic in Croatia. It was agreed that Anton Pavelic8 was to be head of the

new nation state of Croatia, which was carved out of Yugoslavia during the Second World War.

During Pavelic’s four-year reign, he and Roman Catholic

Prelate, Archbishop Alois Stepinac, pursued a “convert or

die” policy among the 900,000 Greek Othodox Serbs,

Jews, and others in Croatia. 200,000 were converted; the

700,000 who chose to die were tortured, burned, buried

alive, or shot after digging their own graves. This

appalling persecution carried out by the Ustashis included

many of the worst atrocities of history. The mutilations

were horrific, the tortures vicious, and the savagery

terrible. The Catholic Church did not leave the execution

of a religious war to the secular arm. She was there herself, openly ignoring precautions and bolder than she had been for a very long time. Wielding the hatchet or dagger, pulling the trigger, organizing the massacre, the Roman  Anton Pavelic with Archbishop Stepina Catholic priests became their own instruments of the

Inquisition.Anton Pavelic with Franciscan Monks  Many of the Ustashi

officers were priests or friars sworn to fight “with

dagger or gun,” for the “triumph of Christ and Croatia.” Priests played a prominent role in the

closing or takeover of Serbian Orthodox Churches,

the seizure of church records and the interrogation of the Serbian Orthodox clergy. They

also supervised concentration camps and organized the torture of many of the victims.

Ante Pavelic b. July 14, 1889 – d. December 28, 1959

French author Edmond Paris, who was born a Roman Catholic and has written a very thorough

account of this terrible massacre in his book Convert or Die, has said,

“It is difficult for the world to believe that a whole people could be doomed to

extermination by a government and religious hierarchy of the twentieth century, just

because it happened to belong to another ethnical and racial group and had inherited the

Christianity of Byzantium rather than that of Rome.”

The creation of the entirely Roman Catholic, independent State of Croatia during the Second

World War was accompanied by a persecution so ferocious that it is difficult to find a parallel in

all of history. The Inquisition applied to the Serbian Orthodox by the Croatian Catholics

accounted for 700,000 Serbs being tortured and killed in just four years. So while the Inquisition

ended in the nineteenth century, the same procedures and mindset were evident in Croatia in the

twentieth century. In fact, the same mindset is still officially maintained by the Papacy in the

twenty-first century. The Roman Church to this day maintains the laws that she used as her

authority to torture and murder Bible believers for over 600 years. In her present-day laws she

states her right to coerce Christian people. Thus Canon law, Canon 1311, states,

“The [Catholic] Church has an innate and proper right to coerce offending members of

the Christian faithful by means of papal sanctions.”

The Catholic Church also holds to the fact that she can demand a submission of intellect and will

as she did in the years of the Inquisition. Consequently she states the following,

“A religious respect of intellect and will, even if not the assent of faith, is to be paid to

the teaching which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops enunciate on faith and

morals.”

So to whatever the Supreme Pontiff or his college of bishops teach on faith and morals, a person

must submit their intellect and will. This is the same teaching that was upheld with the terrors of

the Inquisition for 600 years. While there are no sanctions in torture and death at the present

time, the same astonishing mindset is Roman Catholic law. The fact is that the Papacy still

claims the right to judge and impose chastening that has not changed since the days of the

Inquisition. In present-day Canon Law she also decrees,

Canon 1405 (Sect.1) “It is the right of the Roman Pontiff himself alone to judge in cases

mentioned in can. 1401: 1. those who hold the highest civil office in a state;…

Canon 1401 “By proper and exclusive right the Church adjudicates: 1. cases concerning

spiritual matters or connected with the spiritual; 2. the violation of ecclesiastical laws and all

those cases in which there is a question of sin in respect to the determination of culpability

and the imposition of ecclesiastical penalties.”

The Holy Spirit’s admonition to believers is to be remembered as these decrees are certified into

law, “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not

entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”

In past times, kings and princes and nations were supposed to tremble at her decrees.

Woe to him who resisted! Subjects were released from their oaths of allegiance; whole states

were placed under interdict. By deception regarding the Gospel and, subsequently, by force the

Papacy has held her domain together. She has only external unity, as any one who has lived

within her system and studied her decrees and history knows. It is of signal importance to realize

that the Roman Catholic Church has no other way to maintain her life than by imposition of her

external laws, because she lacks the life giving power of the Holy Spirit and unity of the One

9 Galatians 5:1.

Body of the Lord Jesus Christ. She must legislate to exist, and she needs civil powers to enforce

her decrees. It is crucial to understand that suppression and control are her main stratagems,

although at the time such are not apparent. If control by her is to be avoided, her paradigm must

be understood.

The Lord’s Final Victory

Papal Rome has asked pardon for the wrongs of the Inquisition. During a Mass on March 12,

2000, Pope John Paul II asked pardon for wrongs committed in the past by members of the

church. It was not individual members of the church, but as Lord Acton observed, it was “the

Popes in particular that caused and instigated the sufferings and persecutions, involving

themselves in detail even in the minute ways that believers were to be tortured.”

We have seen how the institutionalized Papacy and the powers of darkness have conspired

against Christ’s kingdom and His people. It is most important to know what the Lord’s anointed

has to say about His kingdom and to know that all the powers on earth cannot challenge Him.

As Psalm 2 reminds us, the Messiah reigns and His Throne is not moved, nor has His plans

changed, whatever may be the turmoil and schemes against Him. While the enemies of the

Gospel are plotting and planning how to break His bands asunder and cast His cords from them,

He has already defeated their devices and He says to them, “yet have I set my king upon my holy

hill of Zion.”10 All events are in His hands. Who can stand against the Almighty?

Things are not as they seem. It looks as if the powers that designed and implemented the

Inquisition still govern the hearts of much of mankind at the present time. The Lord God’s fixed

decrees remain and all the schemes of hell cannot efface a single part of His purpose. He reigns

by inheritance, “Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”11 The Lord God owns Him, and

declares Him Lord and Head of the Church. The supreme government of the Church is His

responsibility and He will bring it to complete success including the punishment of His enemies.

It necessarily follows that though Papal Rome has been a rebel against the government of Christ

Jesus, the Lord God has nonetheless fulfilled His purpose through all the terrible evil that has

taken place. The truth is that through all the dreadful deeds of Papal Rome, the Sovereign Lord

Jesus Christ was entirely with His people, and He was in control of all events so that the faith

and witness of millions shone forth both in this world and before the throne of God; and will

shine forth throughout all the ages of the world to come.

From the beginning the Lord God purposed to glorify Himself “in the Church by Christ Jesus,

throughout all ages, world without end.”12 He has glorified Himself in the faith and suffering of

true believers throughout the 605 years of the Inquisition, as His Word proclaims, “the Lord

reigneth; let the people tremble.”13

The voice of the Lord thunders from the final chapters of the Bible and reverberates throughout

the world, “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive

not of her plagues.”14 While the Papacy from the city of Rome continues to wax strong her final

condemnation is already written, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made

all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”15 The Lord God’s reserved wrath,

His punishing justice, and His enmity to sin, will be revealed to the entire world. The destruction

of Papal Rome will proceed from the glory of His power. “The same shall drink of the wine of

the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation.”16 The

certainty of the final triumph should animate us in our efforts, and true believers in their

struggles.

The frequently quoted maxim that “peoples ignorant of history are destined to repeat it” is true.

Without the knowledge of the systematic murder of believers during the Inquisition, we can fail

to see that the true Gospel is a matter of life. True believers are in real danger of compromise

with the Church of Rome. As the Apostle Paul told believers, “All who live godly in Christ Jesus

will suffer persecution.”17 The victory of the faith and courage of believers over the severest

trials is repeatedly recorded in the pages of history. As the Lord Himself proclaimed, “Be not

afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. Also I say unto

you, whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the

angels of God.”18 Where there is true faith and love of the Lord, there is in the midst of all

afflictions a joy unspeakable and full of glory. God is the only Holy Father, the All Holy One.

His holiness is the distinguishing factor in all His essential characteristics. This is the reason

why we need to be in right standing before the one and only All Holy God on the terms He

prescribes. Turn to God in faith alone, in Christ alone, for the salvation that He alone gives, by

the conviction of the Holy Spirit, based on Christ’s death and resurrection for His own, and

believe on Him alone, “to the praise of the glory of his grace.”

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